2 cycle oil

Booner

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Re: 2 cycle oil

.Use it in your weed eater. Snowmobile is air cooled out board is water-cooled. They run at different temps
 

Scaaty

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Re: 2 cycle oil

Read the can...say good for 2 cycle motors?I would use it. I'm sick of this air cooled, water cooled TCW, weedawackerlawnamower , blah, blah, blah oil arguments. Been using TCW, or what the hell was on hand in all my 2 cycle motors for DECADES. Zero problem. Lifes to short to waste time.......but thats just my opinion in my 4 boats, 15 or better outboards, and 6 motorcycles, all a different flavor motor. Just read somewhere someone saying water cooled motors run around 200 degrees, air cooled 2000 or some crap. Its combustion temps that count, and last I looked, pretty much the same. OK. I'll stand back... I love an oil argument..so have at it.
PS. Last I looked, not to many aircooled sleds around, but maybe I wrong.
 

cobra 3.0

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Re: 2 cycle oil

Use vegetable oil, or better yet spray in some PAM cooking oil. Hahaha.

Walmart's TCW3 costs peanuts and works great. Why dic around with leftover snowmobile oil.

(You'll have better luck in the Evinrude Johnny repair site for your plug question.)
 

craze1cars

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Re: 2 cycle oil

Booner said:
.Use it in your weed eater. Snowmobile is air cooled out board is water-cooled. They run at different temps

I've been snowmobiling since 1974...and I sold my last air-cooled sled in 1987. They're still produced, but only the low end base models, and the EPA will force them to be obsolete in a few short years because they can't complete the combustion cycle clean enough to meet emmissions standards. Most snowmobiles are now liquid cooled. For that matter, many snowmobiles these days are now 4 strokes....not 2 strokes. Yamaha, for instance, produced their last 2 stroke snowmobile in 2005 and are now 100% liquid cooled 4 stroke across the line, and they call for 0W-30 semi-synthetic.

But that doesn't answer the original question. I will assume he's asking about older 2 stroke snowmobile oil. I too am of the school of thought that these oil debates are mostly a waste of time that never result in an answer. I mish-mash different types, grades and brands of oils in just about everything i own, 2 and 4 stroke (though I certainly would only burn 2 stroke oil in 2 stroke motors, and 4S oil in 4S motors, but that's as picky as I ever get, especially when I have old stuff to use up. Burn it somewhere!) I haven't had an oil related failure in over 40 years of running all kinds of different equipment....ever. I certainly wouldn't hesitate to use it up if it were my oil and my 1953 outboard. If that sucker survived the past 53 years, a few quarts of snowmobile oil sure aren't going to cause it to give up the ghost!
 

Scaaty

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Re: 2 cycle oil

Agreed. And I miss those old 80's 2 Stroke Sleds that Yamaha put out. Had the 1st Phazer on the channel. Real lake burner when I lived back in the frozen Midwest. Even more fun when we decided to do Nitrous! Some day I should tell the story of the late day, sun in my eyes, a little too fast, and didn't see the foot high ice heave..."Too the Moon, Alice"....lots af duct tape to get home with all the pieces!
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: 2 cycle oil

I can't imagine that oil being close to anything worse than they made in the 50's.....I'd use it....
 

WillyBWright

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Re: 2 cycle oil

The way I look at it, it's better to run air cooled oil in a water cooled motor than the other way around. Assuming outboard oil would be inadequate in higher temperature air cooled motors, air cooled oil would certainly survive in a cooler running motor. I'd probably run 32:1 and use J6C Champions. But that's me. You could run a separate oil ratio thread and get quite a debate all by itself. :)
 

Bob_VT

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Re: 2 cycle oil

There is a significant ash content differance.

TCW3 is for water cooled. Oil is cheap. Walmart TCW3 is cheap and works fine.

I will not risk it. I would hate to have a failure from the wrong oil and if it only happens once in a million I would be the once.

Did you know that the 53 Johnson would run on cheap 30 weight 1 quart to 6 gallons.
 
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