2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

[bigbad4cyl]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

thank you capt kengaroo......so what ive learned is maybee the mechanic is a little stressed because he wanted to make money off me on parts as well as the 110 an hour he is already charging ....what a racket ,,,,at least i feel very confident in his abilitys

 

[rodbolt]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

2 hours is pushing it if done properly. most 290 uppers and all the DP uppers use a crush sleeve to set and hold the bearing box rolling torque. its a one shot sleeve. cannot be reused. the proper procedure as per service manual require the input yoke to be removed for joint replacement. removing the yoke assy requires a new bolt and crush sleeve and the rolling torque to be reset. no other way if the yoke was removed. if while resetting rolling torque with a NEW crush sleeve, as the old one should be in the trash can at this point, you miss it and go to high on the rolling torque the unit must be dissaasembled and a new crush sleeve installed and the procedure started again. however if your careful and not replacing the yoke seal its technically possible to replace the cross assy without tearing down the upper bearing box. so it depends on the procedure he used as to what job he did.

 

[rabidfish]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

Why is everyone so worried about a mechanic that makes good money?<br /><br />Frankly, I'd prefer my mechanic "get rich" before my doctor did! At least my mechanic will occsionally buy me a beer and a ham sammich. And don't... I repeat DON'T get me started on lawyers!

 

[notinbig]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

Just an outsider here, But YOU came asking advice there big bad boy.<br /><br />To jump on Ken is wrong. You must be asking because YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE!!!<br /><br />Oh by the way my book writen by ME says I would have charged an a$$ like you 4-6 hours and hopefully you'd bother someone else.

 

[bigbad4cyl]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

he says he took it apart ,checked nothing did a real good clean up job on the u joint yolks ,installed the u joints ,,,and acording to him ,installed new gaskets on the covers to the housing ???....im not good at interviewing him as i still owe him for the engine he hasent started ,,,im confident in his work...but his shop says marine in it ,and he wont tuch my lower unit ,,,and i think this was the first upper gear unit he tuched ....i dont realy know what to do ....i think i should buy a complete seal kit at this point and have someone reseal my upper unit ,,,replacing the bearings while they are in there maybee...

 

[notinbig]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

I think you should buy a manual and do it yourself.<br /><br />It seems you are not going to trust anybody!

 

[bigbad4cyl]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

what a bs statement,,,im there its called doin it right or suffer the conseqences later ,,,,i would not have opened it my self if i diddnt know what i was doing ,,,i was expecting a phone call if he found somthing wrong or as soon as he formulated a game plan on it ...no fly by nights on an upper gear housing ...

 

[rabidfish]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

You're correct to be concerned, but you should have thought about that before you took it in.<br /><br />Just because a Mechanic (even a good marine mechanic) has a sign doesn't make him a Volvo specialist...<br /><br />Doesn't mean he isn't a good boat mechanic... he might be great with Mercruisers, or maybe MAN diesels...<br /><br />Next time you need Volvo parts serviced, try looking for a sign that says "Volvo Penta Authorized"...<br /><br />Either way... Good luck, let us know how you make out.

 

[mkast]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

First there's the yuppie who questions four hour@$50 per hour to trouble shoot the engine that won't start.<br />Then there's the trucker who brings his own parts for installation, questioning two hours@$110 per hour for u-joint installation.<br />Then the old lady who ran her car off the pier questioning if the wrecker is really needed, "Why can't you just drive the car out?" (True story)

 

[Scaaty]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

Some people (I won't mention names), that have a attitude of mistrust of others that seem to be very honest in their work, and just trying to make a living, have been the catalyst for more and more mechanics closing the public doors, and going private. This way (I do work out of my own closed shop), you don't have to waste half your day when "Oh S@#$, here comes A#$@^$ again, wanting something for nothing"...Last thing you should do is take stuff to a Mechanic or Machinist and tell THEM what to do, then tell them they charge too much to boot. Just my useless 2 cents...Come Tonto, we go now............Higho Silver, Awaaaayyyyyyyy (now picture a cloud of dust)

 

[rodbolt]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

robby<br /> thats the exact reason I closed up and went to contracting for local marinas. I no longer deal much with the public I just fix them boats.

 

[CATransplant]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

I used to work as an auto mechanic, and quit after a few years. It was just too hard on my back. <br /><br />Now, I work on my own boat and outboard. I don't work on my own cars anymore...they've gotten too complicated.<br /><br />I'd never complain about a two-hour labor charge for someone doing a job like this one. He actually probably worked longer than that, and rounded it down.<br /><br />A lot of folks on these iboats forums are doing their own work. I can guarantee that an inexperienced hand at this kind of work will take three or four times as long getting the job done. And there's no guarantee once you're finished with the work.<br /><br />Good for folks who want to work on their own hardware. It's satisfying and saves a lot of money...sometimes.<br /><br />But, if you take your boat or motor to the shop and have no idea how long a job takes, you're just not in any position to judge whether you're being overcharged.<br /><br />Lots of shops won't even let you bring your own parts. You're lucky this guy did let you do that. Two hours? Two hours is nothing. Try doing the job yourself, working from the manual. I'll bet you spend 4-6 hours on it, and you might not get it done right.<br /><br />Pay the nice man.

 

[Capt Ken]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

Guy calls the other day wanting his steering cable replaced on his boat. Said he has the cable, steering tube brush and grease already. Asked where he got the cable. Said he called a supply house up north and they looked the boat up and sent him one. (I want one of those books, wouldn't that be great) I told him why didn't he just borrow my shop and tools and do it himself. That way he could cut out the mechanic also.

 

[Bondo]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

Ayuh,...............<br /><br />It takes Pretty Big Balls,... to walk into a Room Full of Mechanics,..........<br /><br />And, Start Calling 1 of Them,.... An ArseWhole............... <br /><br />Now there's 1 More Name on My, "Never Answer" List..................

 

[jeff13601]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

If I had to stand over someone and make sure they were doing it right I would be doing it myself in the first place. I cant change a universal joint but let me guide you through fixing my outdrive. Hang tight, Ill be right back. I got a guy here fixing my boat and I need to make sure he is doing everything right. If I bug him enough it will take him three hours instead of two and then I can ***** at him about it and hopefully he will charge me less

 

[bigbad4cyl]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

screw all of you for being jerks......in good old calif it is very hard to find a place to work on a boat ,,,,and maybee i relize im not good at saving money so if over time i buy the parts and then save up the money for the insillation it is my way of doing things ,,,big jerks......and i dobt you could resist the temtation of being a jerk you would have to answer ,,, none of you have realy offered any help just wasted evryones time with your cage rattling ....im not rich or i would just buy a new boat.....................and im not here to support a mechanic who wants to make more money in parts ,above and beyond his 110$ an hour ....go suck an egg...............no one has realy givin a professional answer to the question posed .....just like boatmechanics ,,,,the confused is he buying it charge the bozo more dance..

 

[jeff13601]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

I think a lot of people gave you an answer also. I think what you really need to be looking at is the 110 per hour. Thats up there for where I live. I think people were trying to help you but you started on Ken I think. If you give people here a chance they WILL help you. Im sorry if I sounded like I was being a jerk but I wanted you to somehow understand what you sound like in regards to the universals. I think if you were to apologize to those that you lashed out at you would find everyone here is helpful. And if ever in doubt the best advice I can give you is " The confused is he buying it charge the bozo more dance ". WTF does that mean lol?

 

[tommays]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

some pros did give you and answere that two hours is about right<br /><br />NO BODY could even begin to tell you if it was done right or wrong how can anybody they werent there<br /><br />theres got to be a volvo place somewere even if you have to UPS the upper<br /><br />i dont have the ba>> to take parts to anybody that i need to fix anything boat car lawnmower whatever<br /><br />tommays

 

[Don S]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

just like boatmechanics ,,,,the confused is he buying it charge the bozo more dance..

Say WHAT??? <br /><br />With an attitude like yours, I know why they charged you 2 hours.........<br />There, Now you have the real reason you were looking for.

 

[jeff13601]

Re: 2 hours labor to replace u joints on a 290 vp out drive

Not only is this site helpful for fixing boats, it is excellent therapy. Rodbolt just saved himself a 150 dollarper hour therapy bill by unloading on you. Charge him for two, lol.