2 stroke engines, has anyone used HHO (hydrogen) fuel cells

[Capt MintMaster]

I've been researching the net, and not one post I have read has spoke on the subject of 2 strokes being used with HHO fuel cells (hydrogen gas).
I'm going to try it just to see if it works in the shop, but I would really like to hear from those that have attempted to add HHO and what results they had.

 

[ONERCBOATER]

Re: 2 stroke engines, has anyone used HHO (hydrogen) fuel cells

the conversion does not effeciently work...... and your two stroke would still need oil in the HHO mix....lol are you going to fog the crank case with oil, feed HHO to the engine... and think your not going to pollute? that it will use less fossil fuel, that it is better for the environment....? i don't get the point of this.

I think if your trying to be green....electric would be the way to go... with solar cells...and batteries. .... maybe a really long extension cord.
anyhow seriously what is the point and what are you trying to do?

sean

 

[RogersJetboat454]

Re: 2 stroke engines, has anyone used HHO (hydrogen) fuel cells

I picked the bottom one because its the most obvious, but others may apply too.

The net is full of all sorts of claims, and junk science about any subject.

HHO peaked my interest at one time, but when you read up on it, and you understand the principles of whats going on, it's not going to work for fuel savings.

Think about it, you have an electrical element that requires lots of electricity in order to produce a usable supply of hydrogen. That electricity needs to come from some where. Outboards do not put out allot of amperage from their charging systems, so that in it's self would probably prevent a HHO system from working. Second point is, the outboard engine needs to burn fuel to generate the electricity. If there is extra load on the electrical system, you need to burn more fuel. An HHO system would never give you over the 100% return on the fuel used to generate the electricity, in order to make it feasible. You are basically talking about a perpetual energy machine at that point, which given the amount of friction in the engine, and resistance in the electrical system, ain't going to happen.

Next point, Hydrogen is corrosive. Whats it going to do to the fuel system, crankcase, etc?

Next point, How do you make up for the oil that is not going to be present in the hydrogen, but needed to lube the engine while running?

Final point, Hydrogen is a highly explosive gas. Are the electrical components of your engine rated to be in an environment with concentrations of Hydrogen present?

 

[Mi duckdown]

Re: 2 stroke engines, has anyone used HHO (hydrogen) fuel cells

Mint. Because it does not work. along with ethonal.
Waste of government money.
worked on both projects.
Drill baby Drill. OIL.

 

[JB]

Re: 2 stroke engines, has anyone used HHO (hydrogen) fuel cells

HHO is WATER, guys.

Any 8th grader can tell you that it would take more energy to extract the hydrogen than could be realized by burning it, and you would need a pretty strong electric source to do the extraction.

This "HHO" scam has been around so long that Jr. High students are making up jokes about it.

 

[ONERCBOATER]

Re: 2 stroke engines, has anyone used HHO (hydrogen) fuel cells

understood that it is water... have to assume (lol yeah i know assumptions and their headaches).... that he would be using electrolysis to liberate the hydrogen and oxygen.... personally i cant believe some of the nuts on this subject...and most of the proponents of the idea have no understanding of physics....or chemistry... that said couldnt leave it alone as it was just begging to be kicked.