2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

CRUNCHY

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My 2000, 200 Ocean Pro experiences an instantaneous RPM drop / power loss. The loss is 1K RPM?s (say 5500 to 4500 RPM instantaneously) The RPM drop occurs at any RPM in the power band and since I do not run at WOT (5,500RPM) often, please note that it just happens when ever it feels like it, at what ever throttle! I have been plagued w/ this problem for YEARS! The problem has been intermittent in the past and has become predictable of recent. (the intermittent nature has cost me +thousand dollars because when I finally had a mechanic present it worked just fine, and you can?t fix what isn?t broke. (It actually disappeared for a half of season). So far this year it is consistently occurring after it runs for a while. Say after 45 minutes to an hour. It is staying broke more regularly this early season too. In the past it would sometimes fix itself. Instantly just come back, and it may or may not reoccur that day. Or occur and not get better. I would neutral and give a couple of short revs and maybe it would come back, or maybe not. So far this year it seems to want to stay broke after it occurs. I have just shut it off for a short while and it starts w/ renewed full power but then instantly losses power/RPM regularly so far this year. PLEASE HELP ME! When the instantaneous loss of power occurs there is no stutter, awkward vibration or missing signature to its running operation. Just a dismal loss of RPM/power, like it is losing just one cylinder? I have pumped the fuel bulb while running, no effect. Bulb does not collapse and I replaced it in the past as a prevention. Compression has tested OK. I have a new 10 micron fuel separator filter. A new in-line factory fuel filter. All battery contacts/cabling has been wire brushed and dielectric greased. Brand new spark plug wires and plugs. I have replaced the Stator and Power Pack! Last weekend I flushed the carburetor bowls and cleaned the orifices/screws that are inside the outer fuel bowl drainage screws. (need to note for others w/ a general maintenance concern that cleaning the orfices in those internal screws made it run much more responsively during the post effort test run (but the RPM loss problem then occurred anyway 45 minutes later). I found the holes in those screws filled in w/ what I assume is standard accumulation/build up but did not find any thing in the bowls that was tell tale of a particle clog, but since that was the only thing I did, doing so proved to be a good thing responsiveness wise). The ignition coils were replaced systematically during one of my mechanic sponsored evaluations. None were found to be defective but I have ordered (6) new ones and will be replacing them this weekend. I?m sorry for the wordy rambling but can ANYONE HELP ME? PLEASE!
 

McGR

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

Fuel lines or fuel connections sucking air? Seems like you've covered most of the other typical things.
 

CRUNCHY

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

Thanks McGR. I will look further into the fuel delivery components this weekend. I just question how a fuel flow could be so instantly affecting to cause the instantaneous and intermittent RPM/power drop condition.
 

Br1dgemann

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

2000 Johnson 200 Ocean Pros do not have optical ignition. Charge coils on the stator, flywheel magnets and powerpack all the way....
 

CRUNCHY

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

Hoping I'm getting some traction here. Bumping back, for more reads. Please help guy's. Another wasted day-off chasing the ghost... Coil day. McGR offered I look further into the fuel delivery. The boat is a 2300CC Hydra-sports 23' (Seahorse) center console. I am thinking I should start at the tank. Should I even think about disassembling the fuel line connection to the tank w/ out having say a replacement gasket? Or whatever else? I have an appointment w/ a mechanic in early June, the first available at this point, and I am trying to just do whatever I can to minimize his timely engagement, and just maybe fix it myself! Any and all help is appreciated!
 

Big flop

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

If you did this sorry, work calls.
Keep a timing light handy.
When it looses power check
spark on each cyl.
Looks like you replaced almost everything?
Could be timer base?
 

vdimenna

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

Can you narrow it down to a cylinder? The reason I ask is I had a similar issue. Intermittent loss of power. I put an old set of ignition wires on it and ran the boat till it started acting up. I dropped each cylinder by piercing the boot with my test light till I could find the one that didn't change the engine's tone. It was a pain cause I was leaning over the engine while it was under load and moving at 30 knots. I finally narrowed it down to one cylinder and was able to focus on it till I found there was an intermittent voltage drop to a coil.
 

CRUNCHY

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

Update - not good. Replaced all coils, ran great for about 45-55 minutes, typical, and the same thing happened again. Stayed broke the 7 miles to the slip.
My hull has a bracket motor set up so running w/ the cowling off is not an option - engine is essentially submerged when accelerating/decelerating. I am so depressed....
 

Big flop

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

Check spark at the dock.
If it's running bad you
don't need to be under way?
 
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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

I would check every black wire, make sure they are tight and properly grounded and make sure every wire is clear of any corrosion. Sounds like you may have any intermittent short to ground maybe?
 

anubix00

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

seems odd it takes the same amount of time to lose power:confused:

when you lose power, is it only when youre running under load? if you put the engine in neutral can you rev higher than when youre in gear after loss of power?
 

CRUNCHY

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

FINALLY SOLVED! Replaced the 'Timer Base and Sensor Assembly'! It had to be right,,,, because it was the only part I hadn't replaced! Now runs great. So relieved FINALLY! Mechanic said in his 30 years he has only seen my symptoms twice. WHY ME?

Thank you all for all of the advice and concern..... THANK YOU!
 

cfauvel

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Re: 2000 200 Looper instantaneous RPM and Power Loss.

FINALLY SOLVED! Replaced the 'Timer Base and Sensor Assembly'! It had to be right,,,, because it was the only part I hadn't replaced! Now runs great. So relieved FINALLY! Mechanic said in his 30 years he has only seen my symptoms twice. WHY ME?

Thank you all for all of the advice and concern..... THANK YOU!

I was going to suggest stator. I too had a bad timer base once, which presented itself as no spark to plugs.

Using the DVA adapter and multimeter and manual was able to isolate the problem to timer base.

At least now you have spare parts
 
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