2000 70 hp Low rpm under load

notsgnivil

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Model J70PLSSD has sat for quite some time. With Covid lockdowns here in Australia, among other things, it has only been used about 5 times in 6 years and not started at all for at least 12 months, or possibly more.) I started it the other day and it was not too difficult to get going. I had to remove a short section of fuel hose at the primer bulb (had an obvious leak) and replace the tank connection fitting (I had a new one). Fuel line now holds pressure with no leaks, but it doesn't pump up or hold hard when connected to the motor.
With muffs on, the engine starts under choke and fast idle and then runs at idle once warm. On the water when gear selected, she won't go past 1800 rpm and if I push throttle full it stalls. To me this says fuel. BUT!!!
A bit of history. About 5 years after I bought it in as new condition, this motor developed a gradually worsening problem of intermittent power drop while running. I'd be going along flat stick, and it would suddenly die. She'd jump back to life and away I'd go all day with no further issue. It gradually worsened and I searched and searched for the problem. After going through every possible external electrical possibility, I knew I had bad spark on the bottom cylinder. I tried everything and eventually removed the flywheel only to find that before I'd bought it, someone had previously removed the flywheel and in doing so they'd screwed the flywheel puller bolts right through the wheel and into the trigger coil, which had damaged it physically. Those threaded puller holes in the flywheel go all the way through and they'd obviously used long bolts on the puller. I replaced the trigger coil and it appeared to fix it, but I only used it once or twice before it sat unused much for the last 6 years.
The point of this is that there was an electrical / spark issue, which I hope is fixed. Checking the spark the other day with a strobe timing light and a spark tester tool, indicates good spark on all 3 plugs.
So, I'm leaning towards a fuel problem. As the last person to use the boat was my son, I can't say for sure whether or not he ran the fuel out of the carbs at last use. It could have sat there with old fuel in the bowls. I've ordered 3 carb kits, but my father in law has suggested I also re-kit the VRO pump, so I've ordered a kit for that as well. He is a qualified OB mechanic, so I trust his judgement. (It was he who convinced me I had a trigger coil problem when nothing else worked.) He has a spare VRO pump in his garage that we can rebuild, which would leave mine untouched if it turns out to be just the carbys.
Is a Carburettor rebuild the most likely solution? Why does the Service Manual say that the 6 bolts that hold the Air intake Base Plate on must be replaced every time it is removed? They aren't Head Bolts.
Incidentally, while I have everything off the front end, I've got a Water Pump kit to put in as well.
 

notsgnivil

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Main jets and bowls full of crap. Jets almost complete blockage. Easy fix but I'll put the replacement kit components in anyway.
Before and after of 1 main jet. Top Carb was the worst. Some of the crap that came out.
 

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airshot

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Thanks for posting these examples, many folks don't realize how much crap can get into a carb, or build up inside from sitting. Draining is best for storage, but good storage products can slow down or eliminate these issues.
 

notsgnivil

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I think I'd be inclined to toss that away. Then again, maybe not if it was only crud. How was it running?
Turns out my water pump was fine as well. I'd only recently replaced it not long before it went into disuse. Turns out there was a blockage up at the nylon elbow on top where the telltale connects. I finally got a piece of flexible insulated wire to poke through and away it went.
Oh well, new carb kits, new spark plugs and a new water pump now. Can't hurt anything other than the wallet. The telltale is now squirting like a 17-year-old taking a **** compared to my prostate troubled trickle.
 

notsgnivil

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Thanks for posting these examples, many folks don't realize how much crap can get into a carb, or build up inside from sitting. Draining is best for storage, but good storage products can slow down or eliminate these issues.
Yeah, I don't have an over-wintering problem here, but I guess I never expected to have the boat sit idle for as long as it did. All fixed now and no real harm done.
 

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Main jets and bowls full of crap. Jets almost complete blockage. Easy fix but I'll put the replacement kit components in anyway.
Before and after of 1 main jet. Top Carb was the worst. Some of the crap that came out.
That “crud” looks like the remains of the inner liner of a fuel line.
 

notsgnivil

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That's interesting dingbat. It was all quite black in colour and sort of gritty. Not really hard, sticky or resinous as you'd expect from fuel lacquering residue. The lines under the top cover look pretty good, but the tank line is a bit weathered. Might be worth replacing.
 

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That's interesting dingbat. It was all quite black in colour and sort of gritty. Not really hard, sticky or resinous as you'd expect from fuel lacquering residue. The lines under the top cover look pretty good, but the tank line is a bit weathered. Might be worth replacing.
Definetly replace all fuel hoses !! That and install a new impellor.
 

brodmann

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I'd seriously consider an inline filter while replacing hoses. A good fuel/water separator can be found pretty cheap.
 

notsgnivil

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I have one which I used to use with the 80 litre Cruisetank, but now I'm running 2 X 23 litre plastic tanks. I have a new inline filter for under the cover arriving this week. Water in fuel has never been a problem for me.
 

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Can't have to many filters with todays crappy fuels. My fuel goes thru 3 filters before reaching the carbs.
 
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