3.0L Volvo Penta GS Cooling Questions

blg2007

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--1997 Caravelle 1900BR--
3.0L Volvo Penta GS SX Cobra Outdrive
Engine Hours: approx. 75

Hello All,

The first outing on the boat it blew a circulation hose (runs from thermostat housing to circulating pump on block). The hose blew when I turned the engine off. Everyone told me that I had excess exhaust pressure. So I replaced the thermostat, cleaned the riser, blew through the manifold, replaced hose. I let the engine run today for approx. thirty minutes at diff. rpms, periodically checking the hoses.

The circulating hose for sure had pressure on it, I could squeeze in on it, but the hose would only compress approx. 1/4 in. The hose running from the thermostat housing to the riser had about the same compression. The small L-shaped line that runs from the thermostat housing to the manifold has no pressure at all on it, I could compress it all the way together. When I turn the engine off, immediately all the hoses are easy to squeeze together, have no pressure on them at all.

Does all of the above sound normal? Is this about the correct pressure?

I did notice that after the engine was shut-off I could hear water circulating, this went on for about 30 seconds, or until the thermostat closed (or this is what I thought it sounded like happened).

Also at idle the majority of water dumps out between transom and unit, a small stream runs out of the exhaust ports (directly above lower unit). Is this also correct? Should no water come out of the prop?

The raw water pump works flawlessly when the engine is running, but when I shut the engine down (with the water from garden hose still running) there is a small drip, (about once every 30 seconds) coming from the bottom of the pump. Is this some kind of pressure let off?

This is my first time owning a Volvo Penta and its taking a little while getting everything figured out.

Thanks in Advance!
 

Don S

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Re: 3.0L Volvo Penta GS Cooling Questions

This problem has come up a couple of times. Don't remember ever seeing an answer to the problem though.
One note. It only happens to Volvo 3.0L engines, not Mercruiser or OMC, which all had the raw water pumps inside the drive. Volvo uses engine mounted pumps, you also shouldn't have a leak when not running.
Could it be sucking air when running? I don't know, how it can build pressure, I don't know, but the exhaust would have to be plugged up to build pressure.
 

blg2007

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Re: 3.0L Volvo Penta GS Cooling Questions

Thanks for the reply Don S.

Now that I'm thinking about it, I have to have a blockage in the exhaust somewhere.
I have blew through the manifold, it seemed to do this effortlessly.
The riser is spotless.
No evidence of chewed up impeller in any of the hoses or connections.
I did notice when I removed the riser, the flapper that sets just below it is missing, no evidence of it at all. Number 19 on attached picture.
Last place I havent checked is the exhaust pipe running from the riser down to the transom. Number 18 in picture attached below. How do you remove this? It seems like there is alot of pressure on the water coming out of the exhaust between transom and outdrive. Shouldnt it just run out? Also shouldnt there be water coming out of the prop? I have none. Have a light trinkle coming out of right exhaust port right above lower unit, thats all.
 

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blg2007

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Re: 3.0L Volvo Penta GS Cooling Questions

Alright I took the boat out sunday for about an hour. The temperature would jump up to 180 right off the bat, at idle would return to 160, still alot of pressure on lines. Called local Volvo Penta dealer, he says I have a bad raw water pump (belt driven), the way he explained it is basically the pump is not pumping enough water and the water that is getting into the engine is creating steam, this steam is what is causing my pressure buildup on the hoses. Does this sound right?
 

lamintdog

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Re: 3.0L Volvo Penta GS Cooling Questions

Possibly? I'm not a mechanic but can share my similar experience:

Last season I had the same problem with my 3.0GS where the circulation hose was seriously pressurized with no pressure on the other side of the thermostat housing. My issue ended up being that my raw water impeller shredded, causing the boat to overheat (my own fault) which warped my head. The shop determined through compression tests, etc that the cooling system was being pressurized by a leak from one of the cylinders and the only remedy in my case was to get a rebuilt head put on to replace the warped one... Hopefully that's not what is causing your problem though... Best of luck.
 

cjshrp

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Re: 3.0L Volvo Penta GS Cooling Questions

I just had the same problem with my 96' 3.0 Volvo Penta. The flapper was missing. I ended up having to remove the stern drive and found the flapper melted into one of teh exaust ports. It was completely blocking one side.
I had found a post on the internet where someone mentioned the flapper was neccessary to prevent worse damage. While trying to order the flapper, I found it is an expired part, and Volvo has actually recommended removing it for this very reason (it can become dislodged and clog up the exaust).

My original thought was that the thermostat wasn't working, I pretty much deystroyed it taking it out, but it still seemes to open at the right temp. That is when I removed my riser and found the flapper missing.
Now I just have to get my new thermostat installed and my riser replaced.

Have any advice on reinstalling the thermostat? I hope it goes in easier than it came out.
 

griffin21

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Hello All,
I am new to this. Please help. I have a 97 Volvo Penta 3.0 GS. I have the same issue, and was wondering if the posted issue was resolved, and what was the fix? Good pressure on the hose from stat housing to circulation pump, no pressure on the hose from stat housing to manifold. Overheating when on plane @ 3500 rpm, creeps up to 190-200F on the gauge. Using an infrared thermometer, the manifold registers 200F at several points. The riser is always warm to the touch, never too hot. Engine block maybe 140-150
Last summer I replaced several parts: new gauge, new temp sender, new stat, new impeller (old one was intact, 1yr old), removed and inspected the riser (appears clear, no significant rust), removed the outdrive, and inspected water passage (flapper not found).

Still overheating at high rpm, cools down to 170is on lower rpm.
Is it normal for the manifold to run at 200F ?
How can I test the circulation pump?
Any suggestions on where the issue is? Any help is very much appreciated
Thank you
 
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