350 Mag Head Removal

rbezdon

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Re: 350 Mag Head Removal

tony, the pics are of an engine that definately had an overheat and head gasket go. I have been following that other post too. He clearly has the block and head damage.<br /><br />The answer is that the damage in 3 can definately relate to the condition in 5, the key is to figure out how. I once blew a piston head to bits in a 327 SBC #6 and found a piece of the piston in #4 which hammered the end of the plug completely off. Only way I can figure it got there was by way of the intake manifold so strange things can happen. The reason I asked ablout the closed cooling is that if you had a coolant leak from a head gasket or cracked block or head, the coolant level should have been dropping periodically while you were running. I suspect it must be a fairly small leak so I wouldnt expect your anti freeze to have dissappeared in a hour or two of running but if you had to top it off a couple of times then you can pretty much count on the leak being one of the eares that Don suggested. It sure looks like you were eating water or antifreeze for things to be that clean in #5.<br /><br />On the issue of getting water into the combustion chamber from the exhaust manifold, I'll have to defer to the experts. I can see how it could happen to cause hydrolock (water leaks into the exhaust chamber when the engine is off and gets into the chamber through an open valve) but I just cant see that condition causing the engine to eat the water turning it to steam and creating what you see in the pics.
 

Scaaty

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Re: 350 Mag Head Removal

I'm coming to the conclusion that head was never torqued right (you said the bolts felt loose). Getting a little water in that cylinder is a given. You said you have a COMPLETE closed cooling system. It it also pressurized? I have no experience here if it is, but that would spurt a little water in that cylinder probably in even a hairline gasket tear, or head.
 

FreeBeeTony

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Re: 350 Mag Head Removal

Yes....the system is presurized.<br />I am going to have the head checked out this w/e.<br />This still doesn't explain how/why the #3 cylinder goes dead ~3000RPM.
 

FreeBeeTony

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I pulled the valves on #3 and #5 last night....Could not see any cracks....... :( <br /><br />Is is possible that it just wasn't torqued properly causing a water leak on #5 and a loss of compression on #3?<br /><br />I am still going to have the heads checked when I pull the other side......<br /><br />I will also have a closer look at the block.<br /><br />Any other suggestions?
 

rodbolt

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Re: 350 Mag Head Removal

my opinion is you had a leaking head gasket. there is definatly evidence of combustion gas passage between the clyinders. you also may have had a water leak. thats why #5 is so clean or its clean due to fuel wash. that would explain the lack or rust on the shiny parts. carefully check the deck and the head surfaces for flatness with a straight edge and a .oo2" feeler gauge. also have the head magnafluxed. did you ever pressure test the closed cooling system to check for coolant leakage?. thats why I kept saying a leakdown test. you would have found the leakage,if any, and known where that leakage was or was not. a trick I learned is sometimes its easier to remove the rockers and allow the piston to go to bottom dead center, wear is less there usually and rings will seal a bit better and help find smaller cracks. when appling 100 psi or so of air the heat exchanger will bubble if there is a leak to the freshwater side.
 

FreeBeeTony

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Re: 350 Mag Head Removal

Never tested the closed cooling system.......that was one test I didn't think of. Never really considered a bad head gasket either.......<br /><br />I will check flatness of the head and block tonight, if I get home early enough........gets dark too early now!
 
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