4 stroke kicker

redlinj

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Guys, looking into getting a used merc 4 stroke kicker. Like the idea of electric start, T/T, and xl shaft, but would settle for one with just a long shaft! So the question is, is there any specific year that I should look for or, avoid? Any recommendations? Thanks
 

ondarvr

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What is it about the Merc that it's the only one you're asking about?

​It depends on how you want to use the motor as to how well it will work for you.
 

redlinj

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With all due respect Admiral, this IS a Mercury forum correct! Maybe I just want to match a black merc to my black mercruiser out drive, or i could get a black Tohatsu! If I wanted to pay a bit more, and I could fine one maybe I would go with a yamaha. Johnson and Evinrude don't seem to be as abundant! It just seems as though I thought I came across a thread here that said there were upgrades made to the merc 9.9 kicker in '06. I'm old and forgetful, but think I still have a sense of humor! Please don't write me up--been there done that back in '72. (got off with a warning)
 

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With all due respect Admiral, this IS a Mercury forum correct! Maybe I just want to match a black merc to my black mercruiser out drive, or i could get a black Tohatsu! If I wanted to pay a bit more, and I could fine one maybe I would go with a yamaha. Johnson and Evinrude don't seem to be as abundant! It just seems as though I thought I came across a thread here that said there were upgrades made to the merc 9.9 kicker in '06. I'm old and forgetful, but think I still have a sense of humor! Please don't write me up--been there done that back in '72. (got off with a warning)

We can't ask questions to refine the original post? :doh:

Respect gains respect!
 

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That wasn't what I was getting at, the Mercs are OK, but depending on what you want to do with it it may not be the best motor for every application. If you want it to match, and that's your priority it's fine, but we don't know that until you say what preferences you have and how you plan to use it.

​They are jetted very lean at idle, which makes the RPM's hard to control if you're trolling slow, plus they tend to vibrate at trolling speeds. Higher RPMs aren't an issue. Reliability hasn't been a problem, but like just about every other small 4 stroke they are very sensitive to crud in the carb, so you should learn how to clean it. Drilling out the cover over the low speed adjustment screw and richening the setting slightly will make it run much better. The lean jetting makes it very cold blooded, especially in the winter.

​Some people like the shift in the handle feature and some don't, I like it.

​Yamahas tend to run smoother and quieter, and are far more popular, but have an issue with the tilt and trim pump holding up if you use it a great deal.

​Hondas have a charging system that puts out far more amps than the others if you need to run electronics while trolling.
 
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redlinj

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Of course you can. All I wanted to know was if there was any year mercury 4 stroke kicker that should be avoided. Perhaps I misinterpreted Ondavr's first question. My most humble apologizies
 

tlh 178

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i'm running a 2004 9.9 merc/135 opti, just your basic pull start. other then the yearly maintenance, i have replace the water pump twice and rebuilt the carb twice. i can get it down to .08 mph and runs all day. been a great motor for me.
 

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Of course you can. All I wanted to know was if there was any year mercury 4 stroke kicker that should be avoided. Perhaps I misinterpreted Ondavr's first question. My most humble apologizies

The newer the better,

I have a 98' that I broke the mounting yoke on, It was a common problem with that era of kickers on walleye boats,....

A Pro-Kicker should be fine,..

As to the rpm issues when trolling a 4 blade 5 pitch prop gets the rpm's up and make speed control easy,..

Prop can be bought right here on i-boats,...
 

redneck joe

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get electric if you can, in retrospect I should have. My set up makes me lean out a bit and downwards and a not very good shoulder socket. Now I'm looking at a $1300 add on. I almost want to try to find one for that much or less and sell mine. Not sure.

What kind of boat are you putting it on?
 

redlinj

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Will be going on a 1982 Grady White Tournament 224 ( i/o). I am also concerned about having to lean out so far! I'm quite sure that if I don't get a kicker with all the bells and whistles that I will soon regret it! Ill need to take measurements to determine what length shaft i'll need but a short shaft probably would not be ideal!
 

redneck joe

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so the Grady is similar to mine below I think. Yes, long shaft and get a good (garelic) mount or fixed but yes you will be leaning over. Go electric
 

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Are you using it for fishing often, or just getting back to the dock if something happens to the main motor?

Get the longest shaft you can find (25") for the best performance, but it's not always possible to find a used one in some regions. A long shaft will work, but to keep the prop in the water when the waves get big you need to mount it lower, which makes it more difficult to reach.

​You can connect it to the outdrive for steering, or you can get a remote control that can also be equipped with an autopilot so it's totally hands free, you can even get a bracket that will raise and lower the motor from the drivers seat. it just depends on how much you plan to spend.
 

redneck joe

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i've locked mine in straight and used helm steering the outdrive to get me to where I'm going, calm waters only
 

redlinj

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Yes, boats are similar except for my open bow design. I have a line on a 9.9 25" shaft TNT and controls. I like everything about this motor but just thought of a possible concern---that being how would I route the cables? Appears i'd 'have to cut a hole in the transom to keep the cables from getting in the way. Might not be so bad since any hole cut would be quite high up on the transom and i'd make sure I waterproofed it very well. Any thoughts? Actually, might be a question for another thread.
 

ondarvr

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Routing the cables isn't bad on most boats, and you'll be happy with the results.
 

redlinj

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Yes, didn't think it would be that bad except for cutting a hole in the transom. Guess it really wouldn't be any different than the opening going thru the upper splash well of my sylvan outboard. Probably should try and find that rubber whatchamacallit to cover the opening and cables. Might work to some extent!
 

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There are many types of whatchamacallit's available, here on iboats.

Have you considered an electric steering unit for the kicker?

They are quite nice if you have lots of course corrections, like when following a shoreline or underwater shelf.
 
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