40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

lforney

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1976 Evinrude Model 40R, Manual start tiller controlled outboard runs great. Started first day of boating season and no cooling water coming out with the exhaust in the back. Shut engine down before over heat and pulled lower unit to replace impeller, body, plate, gaskets etc. Cools great now. BUT... When throttle is advanced just to the point of resistance on the tiller twist handle the engine runs great and appropriate power is delivered to the prop. When throttle is advanced further (i.e. the spark timing is being advanced) then it seems like the powerhead and lower unit disconnect and the engine revs and the boat slows down. I searched the archives and found a fix that required adjustment of the coupler for the shift shaft. I adjusted so that maximum forward throw was achieved while still allowing a solid reverse(don't have to hold shifter in reverse)and it works much better but still slips. Any suggestions? I did check the shear pin also. This prop is a solid prop no thru-hub exhaust so there is no hub to slib. It is shear pin through hub through shaft through hub and then held on by a slip on cap with cotter pin to hold. This is my crabbing motor and the season is upon us here on the Oregon coast. I need my 16' Valco and outboard!!!! Thanks in advance for any help. One last thing I just thought of. When I replaced the water pump the drive shaft extended WAY out of the lower unit where it normally runs. I had to push it down more than a couple inches to get the keyway for the pump impeller to line up. Does this help? LF<br /><br />Loren
 

Paul Moir

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Re: 40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

Congratulations on your cooling!<br /><br />Just because it's pin drive doesn't mean there isn't a hub. Look closely and you'll see there's a seam. It's there to protect the drivetrain before the pin breaks. Test it by marking the hub against the outside and running it. Check your marks to see if they still line up.<br />Slipping gears (clutch) feel more like an intermittant clunk which gets worse. Almost like you hit something.
 

OBJ

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Re: 40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

I'll Ditto Pauls post Loren. Lotta folks think that because there is a shear pin that there is no hub to slip. I think Paul nailed it.
 

lforney

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Re: 40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

Well my goodness. Who would have thought you could spin a prop on a shear pin engine. I have marked the hub and prop with a permanent marker and put it back together. I hope that baby spins big time! Much better a new prop than have to rebuild a lower unit. <br /><br />Months ago I went to buy the replacement shear pin for this engine and my dealer didn't have one in stock. The dimensions he gave me were 1/4" X 1 7/16". I went to the hardware store and cut a number of shear pins from a length of 1/4 "brass rod. The reason I used brass is because of the age of the engine and the difficulty of finding replacement parts. I would rather replace many shear pins than gears in the lower unit. Any problem with brass vs. mild steel? I have only had the boat out once since I put in the brass pin and it was just for a very quick "spin" to find out the problems was not resolved.<br /><br />Thanks again Gentlemen for your help!<br /><br />Loren
 

nigelbear

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Re: 40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

I have had brass suggested to me by a prop shop, it shouldnt be a problem. West Marine also sells them here
 

Paul Moir

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Re: 40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

The original spec calls for a stainless steel pin, 1/4" by 1-15/32". I doubt the one less 32 will cause problems. :) <br />The brass pin has a lower shear strength, so it will shear prematurely. Also, if your operating in salt water, your brass pin may dezincify (if it's yellow brass instead of admiralty, that is). This would cause it's strength to be lost over time...<br />Anyway, carry some cut-up nails and tools until you get some SS ones. :) <br />PS - Shear pin OMC Part# 304575 (this number is probably superceded)
 

lforney

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Re: 40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

Thanks to all of you who have offered advice and counsel on this problem. I'm going to close it out as I took the boat out on the Columbia River this afternoon after marking the prop and sure enough. The marks don't line up after the hub spun! So grateful it was not gear and lower unit related. Now to find a new prop!<br /><br />Once again, Thanks!<br /><br />Loren
 

nigelbear

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Re: 40 HP Evinrude "Skips"

You can also have a new hub pressed in if the prop is in decent shape. I would not suggest a nail as a shear pin as this could cause severe damage to the engine or gears if the prop hits something in the water.
 
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