40hp Johnson Outboard Problems, please help

runningbear888

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Late 60s, early 70s 40hp Johnson. Runs good at top speed. The motor seems like it is jerking about every 5 - 10 seconds. Almost seems like a miss. Points are set okay, both plugs are burning a nice tan colour, a nice blue spark. Can someone please help if you've come across this problem.thanks p.s is there anywhere on the net i can find out the year of my motor
 

rolmops

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Re: 40hp Johnson Outboard Problems, please help

Hello.<br />Just put the model # of your engine on this board and you will get your year.<br />You say that it is almost as if your engine is missing.<br />Any chance you have water in your tank?<br />Could be there is some dirt in the fuel?<br />Maybe a lower unit problem (shiftdog)<br />Does the engine make a bang as if it kicks in and out of gear?<br />Could you give a clear description of what exactly happens?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 40hp Johnson Outboard Problems, please help

Bear... Reply with the model number of the engine and we'll be able to tell you exactly what you have.<br /><br />The jumping/jerking problem you explain sounds like the following may apply to your engine.<br /><br />(Jumping Out Of Gear - Manual Type)<br /> <br />This pertains to lower units on all OMC manual shift outboard engines, or any OMC engine with lower units defined as a Shift Assist or a Hydro Electric Shift unit which incorporates a "Shifter Clutch Dog".<br /> <br />Within the lower unit, splined to the prop shaft is what is most often referred to as a clutch dog, hereafter simply called dog. The dog has at least two lobes protruding from it on both ends, facing both forward and reverse gear. The forward and reverse gears also have lobes built into them near their center area. When the engine is running, in neutral, the gears are spinning constantly via the driveshaft being connected directly to the powerhead crankshaft, but the propeller does not turn due to the fact that the dog is centered between the two gears, and the dog lobes are not touching either of the gear lobes.<br /> <br />When the unit is put into either gear, shift linkages force the dog (and its lobes of course) to engage the lobes of the the gear. The lobes of the spinning gear grab the lobes of the dog, and since the dog is splined to the prop shaft, the propeller turns.<br /><br />The lobes of the dog and gears are percisely machined, most with right angled edges that could be installed in either direction, and some with angles slightly varied that must be installed in one direction only (one end only must face the propeller). Dogs that can be installed in one direction only, if reversed, even if the dog and both gears were new.... would jump out of gear almost immediately. Keep in mind that the lobes are percisely machined with sharp angles!<br /> <br />Due to improper adjustment or worn shift linkages, but usually due to improper slow shifting, those percisely machined sharp edges of the lobes become slightly rounded. Now, with those lobes rounded, as the rpms increase, the pressure of the gear lobes upon the dog lobes increases to a point whereas they are forced apart (jumping out of gear), and due (usually) to the shift cable keeping tension on the engines shift linkages..... the unit is forced back into gear giving one the sensation that the engine has hit something, and the cycle continues.<br /> <br />Some boaters have the mistaken belief that shifting slowly is taking it easy on all of the shifting components..... Wrong! Shifting slowly allows those percisely machined sharp edges of the dog and gears to click, clank, bang, slam against each other many times before they are finally forced into alignment with each other..... and this is what rounds those edges off! The proper way to shift is to snap the unit into gear as quickly as possible.
 

wikelam

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Re: 40hp Johnson Outboard Problems, please help

i agree with joe reeves. had a 68 sea king. ran great but jerked about every few minutes or so. then got worse, every 30 seconds, then would jerk all the time. replaced the clutch dog, problem fixed. the edges get rounded over time, this happens.
 

buzzman 9403

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Re: 40hp Johnson Outboard Problems, please help

looks like you have some pretty smart people looking up your proplem my book says it might be carbs
 
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