454 intake gasket not covering port

supercobra

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I've been trying to rebuild this 454 gen 4 in a Baja force 250.I put on intake gasket fel pro 17340 which it call for on mercury site.In the center it barely covers the top port on the head.i think it's a water port.What is going on?I have pics to show you.Its like this on both sides.1786216064648.jpg1786216154060.jpg
 

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Could be air cross over through intake.
Is that the same head and intake that ran before the rebuild? Original gasket may have had a cross over block off.
 

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Do you still have the original gasket ?
What I’m seeing looks no good and will have to come back apart.
 

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Do you still have the original gasket ?
What I’m seeing looks no good and will have to come back apart.
No it was all tore up.what I don't understand is the intake supposed to block that off or is the gasket supposed to block it off.after research I see that it's not a water port.its the exhaust crossover but intake doesn't go that high anyhow.im not understanding what is supposed to be don
 

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Do you still have the original gasket ?
What I’m seeing looks no good and will have to come back apart.
No it was all tore up.tjays why I'm replacing it all.what needs to be done here?the intake doesn't cover it anyway or wouldn't have the force to push gasket down.ots not a water port.i researched it to be the exhaust crossover.
 

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I don't see it as a gasket issue, it looks to me as a wrong intake. The 2 bolts shown should be on each side if the center opening. Don't see how the bolt on the right is even close to the hole. Also the intake is not high enough and should be real close to top of head
 

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Engine didn't have tag for serial number.here is a spare junk motor that is same kind without the gaskets.intake is same as the one I have on my good engine.tpu can see it sits below the ports.i want to know is this a water port or is it a exhaust crossover?1786226283750.jpg1786226307236.jpg
 

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What is the engine serial number from Merc?
In searching, it appears there are possibly two different types of intake gasket part numbers and possibly your 17340 might not fit in with the other option out there when comparing all the possibilities.

So that number comes up as the original parts for this engine.down below or let's me pick a alternative equivalent gasket it recommend.but it does say gen 5 by part number 17340.1000005517.png
 

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So that number comes up as the original parts for this engine.down below or let's me pick a alternative equivalent gasket it recommend.but it does say gen 5 by part number 17340.View attachment 418763
I wonder if that's the problem it saying gen 5 by my gasket 17340?Surely it's not that ,but I would still have to rtv the gasket all around that area due to intake will not hold that part down on its own.o can also see on this parts motor the old gasket covered that area completely and had rtv all around it.
 

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I wonder if I can rtv all around it and seal it off?But is it a exhaust or water port?I guess it can't be water cause their is no intake connection.
 

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Look on the rear of the block and directly below where the distributor is. On the top deck of the block there is a number, what is it?

On the heads look in between the rockers and on the ends, see what casting number is there?
 

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I wonder if I can rtv all around it and seal it off?But is it a exhaust or water port?I guess it can't be water cause their is no intake connection.
Ayuh,...... It's the exhaust cross over, to hot for rtv,...
 

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Look on the rear of the block and directly below where the distributor is. On the top deck of the block there is a number, what is it?

On the heads look in between the rockers and on the ends, see what casting number is there?
Block#14015445
Head #14081045
Parts motor
Block#14015445
Head #14092360
Everything looks exactly same between these 2 engines.I am seeing mercury gasket intake 8m0050224
And glm marine 39170 both have a lot taller gasket in that port area to cover that hole.I bet one of those gaskets was previously on it.
 

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Your heads have an exhaust cross over. Your intake doesn’t have exhaust cross over. Hopefully you can find a gasket to block it off. I think some people close the ports on the head by welding in a piece.
 

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Block 14015445 454 78-90 2 or 4 bolt main
Head 14081045...78-87...oval...OPEN...454
Parts
Head 14092360 ...86-90...oval...OPEN...454 Truck, "peanut" round ports

Unless someone like @Scott Danforth has something to add it's a non-issue, just install and cut the gasket away. I don't see much of a difference between Felpro 17340 and 1212
 
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