'61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

Thanks again kfa4303, Ill let ya know how she's running after the part installations.

 

[HighTrim]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

The battery leads will need at least #4. This is for the battery NEG to ground, and battery POS to solenoid, and POS from solenoid to starter.

The wiring for the choke solenoid is usually #14. The wiring for all else #16 should be fine.

 

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

thanks hightrim
I got the new carb kit and ignition kit installed, I don't know how to use my multi meter (the manual was taped to the back of it for years but is now gone) to test continuity and resistance so I ended up blowing the fuse in it trying to figure it out .. so I just put it back together to see if the timing was close.
It starts up and runs rough for 3-4 seconds then dies out. Hindsight: it probably wasn't good to replace the ignition and the carb kit at the same time without having one tuned correctly.
Can I just use a timing light instead of taking everything off and learning how to use the multi-meter? How do I use the light?

 

[nwcove]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

can you post a pic of the front of the meter? not sure a timing light will be of much help. sounds like a fuel issue more than timing if it starts and runs for a bit.

 

[HighTrim]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

A meter is not critical.....timing the points to fire exactly 180 degrees apart is nice, but a feeler gauge will get you very close. Just set the rubbing block of 1 set of points at the flywheel key, then set the points to 020. Then rotate the flywheel so that the next rubbing block is aligned with the flywheel key and set its gap to 020. Then clean the points with acetone. I like to dip clean paper or business card stock in it and run it through. Now install the flywheel and hand tighten the nut. Set your spark tester to 1/4" and test both cylinders. The spark should jump the gap with a bright blue ZAP!! If not, there is still and issue. Now once you have a hot spark, and good compression, it will be time to fine tune the fuel delivery.

 

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

I have a feeler gauge and had to adjust both points to the max and it still only got to .022 on one side and .024 on the other?
I see there is a tiny bit of play in the cam that operates the points?
My friend is bringing a timing light over now

 

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

all I have is a feeler gauge to gap the spark plugs, how do i measure a 1/4" gap? I can guess?
is ok if the cam that functions the point has 1/64 play in it?
My multi meter is analog and I blew the fuse so it's no good until I get a new one tomorrow.

 

[bobjones294]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

Don't know where your at on this project but I will put my five cents in. This ignition system generates its own power via flywheel magnets. Outside power should never be introduced to ignition system. The ignition key should short ignition wires to ground to stop motor but kept separated from each other while running. The key should also bring 12 Volts to starter solenoid for cranking but never to ignition system.
Probably confused you, but I hope you can make sense of it.
Regards, Bobjones

 

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

I'm not worrying about the key and starter until I get the magneto and carb part adjusted, I was just asking so I could order the wire..

Right now I just tried to re-adjust the points; got one point do to .020 but other the closest it would go was .025? I loosened the mounting screw of the static part of the point and pushed it as close to the moving part of the point while at the top position on the cam. any ideas?

I put the flywheel back on and got good bright spark on top plug but not as good on bottom, but still jumped 1/8"

 

[HighTrim]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

Sorry the 1/4" gap was what the spark should jump on a tester, not the plug. The plug gap is 030

The arm of the points may be bent?

 

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

I don't have the tester to test 1/4" gap I guess, I just have the feeler gauges.
I got the points adjusted correct, got the flywheel back on and torqued down and it's starts up and runs good, just need to get the carb adjusted right..

 

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

got her running good using a 55gal drum full of water.. Taking her down to the lake now!!
Thanks for all the help guys!! ill let you know how I make out..

 

[nwcove]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

awesome daniel!! hope your trip goes well!!

 

[kfa4303]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

sweet! fingers crossed. Keep us posted.

 

[Daniel Merritt]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

I got her out on the lake, took upto full throttle and got the HS needle adjusted correct... Then I slowed down to a trolling speed and started turning the SS needle in 1/8 turn at a time.. Nothing was happening, Im pretty sure I took the SS all the way back in, is it possible for the motor to run without the SS needle working? It was running but seem like it went through cycles, high idle then down to low idle... It wouldn't stay consistant and died out at times when I was down to trolling speed, but I also think it needs to idle down even more because we were going to fast for trolling.

I've read that the only real difference between my '61fastwin and '68fastwin is the carb was update in the '68 and only has a SS needle; Is the '68 a reliable carb at slow speeds? should I put the '68 carb on my '61?


Still caught 1 laker tho!!

 

[lindy46]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

Can you close the needle all the way down to where it stops? If it just keeps spinning and doesn't close down, you need to tighten the packing nut. There is a threaded barrel which the needle screws into, and the packing nut keeps the barrel from spinning in the carb opening. Also, when you cleaned the carb, did you remove the welch plug on top of the carb and clean the idle circuit beneath it?

 

[kfa4303]

Re: '61 evinrude 18hp fastwin 15034-10961 (NO SPARK IN 1 PLUG)

+1. If the SS needle had no effect, then the nut the needle passes through probably needs to be tightened down a bit. It can be kind of a pain to get the nut firm enough to stay seated, while still allowing the needle to be adjusted. You'll know you've got it right when the motor responds to adjustments of the needle. Make 1/8 turn adjustments, then allow 5-10 seconds for it to take effect, then readjust as needed. Here's a carb rebuild link that may help.

5.5 HP Evinrude Johnson 1954-1954 Carburetor Tune-Up Procedure