'66 Woodson Restoration with pics

[SgtMaj]

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[oops!]

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i dont know if i follow what happened......but ....is the 1/4 inch wave somthing that could be taken care of with a grinder?

it would be a shame to waste the seacast.

glad yer back sarg

 

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[i386]

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Is the void where you can pour more Seacast in? I think I read that it's no problem pouring in stages.

 

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can ya flip us a few dozen pics sarge?.......a good belt sander and 30 grit will rip just about anything....and its flat

 

[oops!]

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just another quick thought.........theres kids that work at glass shops....(under 23) that would be happy to do a reshape....might get them for 10 bucks an hour....(depending on the local econemey) they could do it in a few hours....its easy if you do it all day, everyday

 

[Robj]

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If the only problem is cosmetic and the transom is otherwise solid I would just do some sanding and fairing to get it how you like it. You may have to put some glass over it and then gelcoat, but IMO it is easier than cutting the whole thing out and starting over. Post some pix.

Have a great day,

Rob.

 

[Coors]

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can ya flip us a few dozen pics sarge?.......a good belt sander and 30 grit will rip just about anything....and its flat

Agreed, and the belt sander is more forgiving- it gives a flat surface.
Just hold on with both hands.

 

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[jcsercsa]

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OHH man Sgrt , I know its not the greatest but i would do the grinding and then new glass and the the gel-coat !! at least for this summer so you can get out in the water !! and if its still bothering you this fall then redo it !!

Or could you guys answer this one , couldnt you grind some and then marine-tex it perrty flat !!! John

 

[oops!]

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farr it.

no big deal sarge.......aint gonna hurt one little bit.....just as long as the motor thru hull is straight......

if that is warped....getting a seal on it will be tough. ....its ok if its fatter at the bottom.....but the mounting surface must be relitivly flat, the gasket can take some minor waves out.......

forget about fixing the top, no one will see it after the cap goes on.....and when you are pulling your little ones are on the tube, you wont give a hoot if you think you did a bad pour.

cheers bud
oops

 

[SgtMaj]

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Here's the picture of the gap... it would take less than a pint to fill it, but like I big dummy, I didn't separate any of my 5 gallons to use later if needed.

 

[Coors]

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Just mix some epoxy with any fibers you have left from cloth, and pour in there.

 

[SgtMaj]

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Just mix some epoxy with any fibers you have left from cloth, and pour in there.

I could do that, got plenty of glass fibers from mat... though since it's seacast, I'd want to do it with poly resin instead of epoxy (just mentioning in case others end up in similar positions, seacast doesn't bond to epoxy, and I assume vice-versa).

IF I stick with this... I'm not the kind of person that can just say good enough... It's got to be right. So maybe the reshape thing Oops mentioned might work. What do you all think, seeing the pictures now? Could I still do that? If so, it would be the cheaper solution for sure... by about half. I need to re-do the gel coat anyway, so that's no big deal. I don't know, what do you think now that you've seen it?

I just realized you're probably all thinking... how could I have even missed that hole... it's because I had the sides taped up to hold in the seacast. It worked perfectly on the other side. I just took too long getting around to this side, so the seacast had already started to set up enough that it didn't flow down as well as I had planned, add that to me not pushing it down well enough, and that's the result.

PS - If the weather holds, I'll get some grinding done to clean up the deck area this morning... might even prep the area where the livewell is going to go for the glasswork.

 

[SgtMaj]

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Well the weather didn't hold very long at all... barely long enough for me to even get suited up, but... I believe I promised these pics a while back... Note the use of the masking tape around the face and wrists. That actually really worked well. I did a bit of grinding, and I'm not at all itchy. More on the work after the pics of my suit-up:

Pay no attention to my ear sticking out there... I forgot to re-cover it after putting the earplugs in, but I remembered before getting to work.

Now here's what I got into: I did a bit more work on a part I had already worked on previously... on the trailer, the part that holds up the winch mount and bow guard. There were two problems with it before, number one, the new winch sits so far back on the stand that the stand has to be mounted only at the top of this stand. That left it too high and put the bow guard right in the way of the bow eye, so I had to cut it down by a few inches. Also, I didn't like how it was still a hollow bar with an opening toward the sky and no way to drain water... it was going to get rain, etc in there and finish rusting through. So I filled it with some of the extra seacast I had when I finished (or nearly finished anyway) pouring the transom. So here it is after that dried...

And here it is after grinding it down a couple of inches... Oh, and I re-angled the top, so it sits parallel to the ground instead of at the same angle the bar angles back at.

Note the big gaps and holes in it... That's not from the pour. I learned a funny thing about Seacast today, when you heat it up to the point where steel turns white-hot, it can smolder a bit, at least until you remove the heat.

So, not being able to get a smooth surface there, I topped it off with some bondo after cleaning it up a bit. Why bondo? Because I had it handy and it's never going to have to support any weight or anything. Purely cosmetic. Anyway, I'm just waiting for that to set up before sanding it and repainting the whole thing. Then I'll bake it in the oven for about 6 hours or so, and it'll be good to go. That's about all I'll have time for today, since I have to work tonight.

 

[SgtMaj]

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I was too tired to finish yesterday, so I'll finish it up today, then get it all re-assembled and bolted back down to the frame tonight. I'll also order some more resin, glass and supplies tomorrow. Don't think I'll do anymore grinding 'til tuesday, since my neighbors across the street don't like it when ppl work on Sundays (esp. if it makes loud noises), and I try to respect their wishes by mowing only the back yard, etc. But I might consider putting the boat back in the garage to finish up some grinding work overnight tomorrow night. We'll see. Monday I won't have a chance to do anything since I have class in the morning and another doctor's appt. in the afternoon. Tuesday is looking good though, I just wish I had the resin already, then I could get some glasswork done.

Might finish up on the cupholder slots tonight, too. There's a couple that need widening. Oh, and I really need to do something about the bunks, the support poles have been slipping so the bunks aren't tall enough to reach the hull, which just puts more pressure on the rollers and will likely damage the hull if I leave it like that. Fixing that Permanently shouldn't be too hard, will just have to drill through the mount and pole and put a bolt though it to hold them steady. Though, while I'm fooling around with them anyway, I might as well go ahead and strip, sand, and paint the supports, and replace the bunks themselves. For that I need to go find a tiny peice of carpet remnant to recover them. I'm just going to do a cheap job of the bunks right now, just to support the hull as I climb all over it working on the rest of the boat. I'll get fancier with the bunks later once the boat is finished.

I still don't know what to do about that transom yet... waiting on more replies about it... though reshaping it doesn't sound so bad, if you still think it's possible.

That's it for now, I thought I had a pic of the winch post with the bondo waiting for it to cure, but apparantly not. Oh well, I'll take more pics of everything tomorrow and post them if I get online tomorrow night.

 

[oops!]

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i think you can reshape the transom.

as far as the bunks......i built mine outta 2x 8s (a few years back)...i think i used pt....

they have held up well.....i just went to a carpet store and asked for some out door cut offs....got two long strips.......i used regular outdoor carpet glue to hold it down...........

that was 4 (i think) years ago.......now i get to rip it out and do it again, cause i extended the trailer.....so ill get to see if there is any signs of gook.

cheers
oops

 

[SgtMaj]

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Ok, well I tore into those bunks and finished off the winch support. I'm not going to re-post pics of the winch support because it looks almost like it did the last time I took pics of it (just a few inches shorter, with a capped top).

Here's the bunks before picture:

Pretty nasty, eh? This one's even missing all the padding. So I yanked 'em off, sanded them down and repainted them, and here's one of the arms drying:

Now for the bunks and bunk padding, I decided, why replace the ones I have when they are still usefull... so I just painted over the ones I had (still mostly solid), and recovered them with new padding. Oh, and the padding, I was totally going to get a carpet remnant, but then my wife wanted me to go shopping with her at this place that's near a couple boat stores. Naturally it wasn't so hard to twist my arm into that, so we went, and I found a roll of bunk padding that's bigger than I need for just $13. I figured I would have spent that much on a carpet remnant or cutoff anyway. So I used that instead. We were out too late last night though, and I didn't get a chance to run by the hardware store to pick up new bolts, etc for it and I also wanted to pick up a piece of composite wood to replace the wood with now, since everything else is basically finished with it, that way I won't have to revisit the job once I'm done. Here's one of them as finished (or mostly so, pay no attention to the still rusty bolt through the center):

Pretty nice, eh? The top has 2 layers of bunk padding for even more cushioning, but you can't even tell because of the second layer overlapping it. I attached it with screws, and didn't glue it down just yet, since I'm still going to replace that wood with a composite, but that should be done today I think. I should surely have enough time tonight to at least do that. I'll post the finished pics when they are mounted to the trailer again.

Also on my list today, is going to be fixing the trailer jack mount. There's not really anything wrong with the current one, except that the bolts stick out about 2" and you can catch your leg on them (I already have once), so I'm just going to pick up some U-bolts while I'm out today, to keep that from happening, again. I also need to replace the hitch, I'm not sure what's wrong with it exactly, but I hasn't been willing to set all the way down on the ball since I got it home the first time.

 

[i386]

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Mine's made similar to that. Nice work.

 

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