71' 9.5hp Johnson Help?

Scottoe69

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Help!!!My outboard isn't running up to par.This is my problem,top cylinder isn't getting any fuel.Bottom cylinder is getting dumped on.Top plug not burning,bottom plug burning to rich.both cylinders getting enough current.changed points & condensors,and plugs.still not running right.Thought it was the plugs,so I swapped them around.getting the same results.Could it be the Butter-fly valve's?
 

Xcusme

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Re: 71' 9.5hp Johnson Help?

OK, lets start at the beginning. Both plugs are have good spark ? How about some compression readings?? Sounds like the carb is set rich, or you don't have good spark. Top cylinder could have a vacuum leak, leaky top crank seal? Butterfly is common to both so that pretty much rules that out.
 

Scottoe69

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Re: 71' 9.5hp Johnson Help?

As a matter of fact, the top seal is blowing oil around.So, would that cause cylinder to not fire?and how hard is that to fix?When running it vibrates a little more than usual.Also the points were dry,while there was oil everywhere else.If I change the crankseal will I have to change everything else? How often do you check/change points?
 
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Xcusme

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Re: 71' 9.5hp Johnson Help?

....would that cause cylinder to not fire? You bet it would, because there'd be little fuel to burn in that cylinder. Two stroke motors rely on having an airtight crankcase to port fuel mix into the cylinders. Another problem with the top seal leaking is , as you've already observed, oil gets sprayed everywhere under the flywheel. Oil can foul the point sets, causing misfires and holds dirt. After you replace that top seal, there's no need to replace the point sets, just remove , clean and adjust for proper point gap (.020). Clean coils , condensers and armature plate as needed. The point sets should be dry but the point cam should have a light film of machine oil applied. There is usually a small felt pad touching the points cam. The felt has a few drops of oil applied and lubes the cam as it rotates. Checking the point gap every few years, depending on usage is a part of normal checkup procedure. The vibration can be caused from dropping spark to one cylinder or a mis-adjusted carb. Did you get a chance to check the compression on each cylinder?
 

iwombat

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Re: 71' 9.5hp Johnson Help?

Blown diaphragm in the fuel pump would also cause a rich condition in the bottom cylinder. I'd look there before carb and powerhead seals.
 
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