'71 johnson 125 questions (joe reeves)

crosley99

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hello,<br /><br />reviving the old gal and want to make sure of a few things. started the motor last night and turned over fine. after a few minutes it even idled satisfactorily. after going over the thing with the service manual, i found that the clipper was not present on the motor. i was also missing a couple of connections on the main "bus bar". what am i missing by not having the clipper?<br /><br />thanks,<br /><br />crosley
 

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Re: '71 johnson 125 questions (joe reeves)

What is a clipper?
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: '71 johnson 125 questions (joe reeves)

Crosley... The "Clipper" was a item that caused more problems than it solved. Eventually it was done away with. I have the service billetin somewhere but can't lay my hands on it right at the moment. Bottom line... ignore that missing component.
 

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Re: '71 johnson 125 questions (joe reeves)

I have what I believe is a 71 Johnson 125 ... what is this clipper thing, what does it do/not do and should I remove the blasted thing? ( I cant get the dammned motor rolled over to see the id tag, so I cant be sure of the year, but I remember somehting being said about 71, it says hydroelectric shift on it, does that help?
 

crosley99

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Re: '71 johnson 125 questions (joe reeves)

thanks joe,<br /><br />according to the service manual, the clipper has something to do with recharging the battery and if it's not working it could jeopardize the cdi unit. are there any other components that this removal would effect? also, in past posts you have recommended spark plugs? what should i be running on this engine? i'm going to rebuild the carbs and replace the impeller. drain the lower unit, run the dexron through it and replace with fresh type C lube. anything else? spark plug wires?
 

crosley99

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Re: '71 johnson 125 questions (joe reeves)

hey joe,<br /><br />i know this has been covered. the engine starts and stays in forward. i pulled the knife connections apart at the powerhead. put 12v to each lead (blue and green), still no shift. what is the next move? i've seen some success on this board with a dexron flush and new OMC type C lube.<br /><br />should i get into the solenoid compartment and check that out?<br /><br />thanks for your help.<br /><br />crosley
 

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Re: '71 johnson 125 questions (joe reeves)

Crosley.... If you've got good "Premium Blend", also known as "Type C' in that lower unit and it doesn't shift when voltage is applied to it as follows, I would think it's time to drop the lower unit to check further.<br /><br />(Hydro Electric Shift)<br /><br />The shifting setup of the lower unit is what's called a "Hydro Electric Shift", which is quite complex consisting of voltage being applied to solenoids in the lower unit which in turn change oil passages via a oil pump that supplies various pressure on a spring loaded shifter dog. The wires leading to the lower unit (at the powerhead) are "Green" and "Blue". The engine must be running or cranking over in order to shift out of forward gear.<br /> <br />You CAN NOT use HI VIS lube in that lower unit. You MUST USE what OMC calls "Preminum Blend" lube, commonly called "Type C". (A thinner lube) <br /><br />In neutral, you need 12v to the "Green" wire. <br />In reverse, you need 12v to both wires, the "Green" one and the "Blue" one. <br />In forward, there should be no voltage to either wire. (The spring loaded shifter dog forces the unit into forward gear) <br /><br />To check the lower unit for proper shifting to make sure you have no trouble there, remove the spark plugs to avoid problems and to allow a higher cranking speed. <br /><br />This next step eliminates the actual shift switch in case problems may exist there.... Disconnect the blue & green wires at the knife connectors (the rubber insulated boots) leading to the lower unit at the powerhead, then using jumpers, take voltage direct from the starter solenoid to apply voltage to the "Green" wire for neutral, then both wires 'Green" & "Blue" for reverse (Remember the engine must be cranking over in order to shift).<br /> <br />With no voltage applied, the unit should be in forward. No need for a ground jumper... the lower unit's already grounded. You may crank the engine with the key switch or by energizing the starter solenoid with a jumper wire.
 
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