72 johnson 20hp recoil problem

[boydog]

my recoil will not connect to the flywheel so i ordered new spring and starter pawl, still no luck so i took it apart. see pics. what makes the starter spindle open and close the pawl? how does that work as i see nothing wrong with the parts.
i do see an arrow on top of the spindle where is it supposed to point? in pic 2 next to the shaft there is a pinhole (left side of shaft) but the spidle does not have a "pin" to fit in there. what is it for?
thanks guys

 

[racerone]

You are overlooking the simple things.-----Where is the pawl and the wire spring thingy?-----Often folks grease the friction spring..----But they are supposed to be dry !!

 

[F_R]

Yep, friction is what makes the pawl move out. Grease the parts and no friction. Some spindles had pins, others did not. Either way works as long as the screw is tight.

 

[boydog]

new pawl new spring, ill clean them up and make sure all is dry! thanks guys

 

[Joe Reeves]

Are you missing these linkages?

 

[boydog]

no have all those parts, bought them new, im going to clean up the recoil spindle and see if i cannot obtain some friction!

 

[racerone]

It is the narrow groove in the spindle that needs to be free of grease !!--------That is what pulls the spring wires.----That in turn is what pulls on the pawl to pull it out AND to retract it.

 

[boydog]

put old spring back on and it works like a charm!!
go figure

 

[thatone123]

I have had/have a few of these...they are like some women....finicky,,,but are OK most of the time.

 

[Joe Reeves]

put old spring back on and it works like a charm!!
go figure

Yea... Red Foreman was just about to throw a name your way.

 

[boydog]

like me some red foreman!