'79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

Theoutdoorsman

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How difficult is it to drop the lower unit and exchange the water pump with a new kit? I've finished rebuilding the powerhead and need to get this done ASAP so I can begin my break in next week while on vacation. Any advice or helpful tips would be much appreciated. Thanks..................ALAN
 

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'79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

It really isnt a big job. Make sure control is in neutral very important! Then removing the shift bolt under the bottom carb which is a 3/8 socket. I used a long extension with a universal and socket. On the bottom of the lower unit I remember there were 6 bolts for removal. Five visible bolts and one bolt is hidden under the trim tab which has to be removed to get to it. Mark the exact position of the trim tab, other wise your boat will be wandering left or right and you won't know why. The major issue I encountered was the installation of the unit back up and getting the water pick tube in upper housing aligned and at the same time the spline for the gear housing in the right position. Make sure the upper water pick up tube inserts into water pump top,,,Wheww,, try not to force the unit back up or if a second person is helping because you can bend the top water pick up tubing, I think mine was copper. Read the instructions that comes with the new pump if any, or before you disasemble old pump pay attention to how it looks and reverse the assembly. Important note is the small nylon bushing or key-way looking part which will be in the center of the impeller which is a solid fit and will only go in one way. There is a metal shell that fits over the impeller which is tricky getting it in position over the impeller . Then the black plastic housing goes on down over the long spline shaft and rubber type boot fits over outer hole which will seal pressure to the upper housing water tube.Tighten the 4 bolts. Make sure you put the o-ring in position also befor raising unit back up. Lift unit very careful. I also tilted my engine up 30 to 40 degrees to have less weight pushing down. It is a great help to be able to see up to where upper pick up tubing connect with seal on the top of the water pump housing. Good Luck Mate!
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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

It ain't no big deal Alan. Hardest part is releasing the shift rod.

On your engine, shift into reverse. This puts the shift lever behind the lower carb all the way down. From the starboard side of the engine, you can get to the shift rod retainer bolt with a long 1/4" extension and socket.....3/8" I believe. A universal joint on the end of the extension helps.

Once the retainer bolt is removed, drop the lower unit. Be careful not to turn the shift rod.

You will need to take out six bolts to drop the lower unit. 2 on each side....9/16" heads. A 5/8" head bolt forward of the trim tab and a 1/2" head bolt under the trim tab. There is another bolt that holds the anode in place between the 5/8 and trim tab. You will not need to remove this one.
 

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CLINT!!!!!! You type to fast........d:)
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

Thanks guys!!!...........Right now, I don't have the powerhead installed. I thought maybe this job would be much easier before I remounted it. Maybe I was right? What do you fellows think? Too, I will most likely be doing this by myself. Would it be best if I had someone help, or is this something you feel like I can do alone? Also, I see in the manual where it recommends applying adhesive "m" to the seal groove in the impeller housing. I understand you can get away with not using the sealer on the carberator core plugs............what about here? Is the seal, alone, adequate? Any suggestions? Thanks again................ALAN
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

Do it now before you install the power head. The shift linkage is already undone. If you don't have the carbs on the power head leave them off for now. Put the power head on before you re-install the lower unit and hook up the shift linkage before you put the carbs back on.
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

Would these instructions also apply to a '77 Evinrude 140(in particular the bolt locations for the lower unit)? I'm still gathering info and will start a new thread when the courage has finally reached critical mass for my water pump project.
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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

Pretty much so ****. Bolt locations are pretty much the same on most models.
 

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Don't forget to mark the position of the trim tab before you remove it.
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

I see in the manual where it recommends applying adhesive "m" to the seal groove in the impeller housing. I understand one can get away with not using the sealer on the carberator core plugs ............what about here? Is the seal provided in the kit adequate? Also, the copper tube, protruding from the lower unit housing, has a slight bend in it. Will this hurt anything or should I try to straighten this out before reinstalling the lower unit?Thanks.............ALAN


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'79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

Buy a Manual to know the right specs and simple information on your motor.
Clint 8)
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

clint said:
Buy a Manual to know the right specs and simple information on your motor.
Clint 8)

As stated in an earlier post, the OEM Service Manual suggests the use of addhesive "m" on the carberator core plugs, which others here on iBoats have said do not actually NEED this adhesive, and on the pump housing. Just curious if the water pump housing needs, or doesn't need, the adhesive as well....I not only own the service manual for my outboard, but I also have the parts manual, and the owners manual to boot.....Just looking for suggestions and recommendations from members here who are "long in the tooth", so to speak. Thanks though.................ALAN
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

I don't use any adhesive on any of the waterpump components.Maybe a dab of vaseline in housing groove to hold the o ring in place while assembling.On that bend in the water tube pictured above,you'll definately want to true it up.A small hole punch or similar conical shaped tool firmly rotated within the hole should do the trick.I also recommend installing new rubber seals on the exhaust baffle that seats into the lower unit while you've got it dropped.
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

ob said:
I also recommend installing new rubber seals on the exhaust baffle that seats into the lower unit while you've got it dropped.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what your referring to here. I can't see what seal your speaking of in the parts manual. Can you elaborate on this?
 

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The part that accepts the seals is actually called the lower inner exhaust housing.This is a floating piece that resembles a small metal boot that routes exhaust from the powerhead to the lower unit and finally out through the prop hub.It takes two gaskets .One on the top where it meets the upper housing and one on the bottom where it mates to the lower unit.Once you drop the lower unit ,you'll see it.
 

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I have already dropped the lower unit. I'm going to go outside and take a look at it. I am almost certain the seal you are referring to is the gearcase to inner housing seal........ p/n 320961. Correct? Let's take a look see.
 

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Yep.And the upper seal for the same part is 320936.Make sure to install a new rubber grommet on the water tube picture above as well.
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

You may find this hard to believe, but this seal (gearcase to inner housing seal) was non-existant prior to dropping the lower unit. It's nowhere to be found!? Could this have contributed to the failure of my powerhead? What kind of symtoms would I have encountered with this seal missing? Also, the grommet you speak of, p/n 314008, was included in the complete water pump kit that I purchased. It most definitely will be replaced.
 

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Re: '79 Evinrude 140 water pump kit installation?

Don't think it lead to a powerhead failure but over time they deteriorate and can allow water to migrate from the flooded exhaust housing chamber.Particulary when the engine is tilted fully before it drains.Just a good idea to insure all of these seals are in place as per original design.These missing seals can also lead to paint scorching of the outer housing,and could potentially damage the nearby waterpump housing.
 
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