'81 Johnson 140 V4 Lower Unit Rebuild

rdeyoe

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Ok. Just some mech questions for the group. Enlighten me please:

1981 Johnson 140 HP. Took the kids tubin and heard this ratcheting sound from the motor....then thump! No forward gear (lots of thunking around). Reverse worked fine and got us back to the dock (should seen the look on the people's faces in the campground seeing a 1978 19' Viking Deck going backwards the whole way at 3 MPH!).

Drained the oil. Lots of pretty shavings (I had changed the LU oil two months ago) and one nice chunk of gear(?) stuck to the magnet on the drain. Dropped the LU and got it almost all the way torn down. I've been a mech for years (including military where all i did was work on helicopter gearboxes). It came apart without incidence, but I can't seem to figure out how to get the prop shaft out. I have the nut on the pinion broke loose and off the shaft end, but it doesn't come out because the clutch dog is blocking it. Does the drive shaft just pull straight out (all the top end of the shaft is apart, housing, thrust bearing, shims and such)? Looks like I need to get the drive shaft out of there (along with the pinion) to get the prop shaft out. Could the pinion be seized on it? Also, assuming I get that shaft out, is there something else retaining the prop shaft? I have it all the way down to the gears. With the back (reverse?) gear out, I can see that the forward gear and the pinion are missing teeth. I still have the clutch dog on the shaft. Should it pull off?

Other than torn up gears, and probably the clutch dog, the rest of the box looks decent. If I replace the gears and dog, are there any steps for shimming / checking backlash on the shafts once assembled? I'm sure that I'll have to shim the new gears to set the lash, but I don't have the specs or a procedure for it.

Any help is greatly appreciated. These are the best forums (for boating and otherwise) that I've ever visited! Thanks.
 

Daviet

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Re: '81 Johnson 140 V4 Lower Unit Rebuild

By the parts breakdown it looks like after you remove the four bolts under the water pump plate, and the pinion nut the drive shaft should pull stright up. then the prop shaft pull out.
 

rdeyoe

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Re: '81 Johnson 140 V4 Lower Unit Rebuild

I thought so too....but the *$&@# thing still seems to be stuck. I did some gentle prying putting an open end wrench in the cut-out of the drive shaft for the woodruff key for the water pump impeller, but it just seems stuck. I think once the driveshaft / pinion are out, the prop shaft should slide out (?). I just don't want to pull on it too hard... I already know the gears / clutch isn't cheap, but (good) LUs look like more than I can handle. Besides, there's something to knowing what's in that magic box when you do it yourself!...takes the magic out and it's easier to determine future problems....
 

rdeyoe

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Re: '81 Johnson 140 V4 Lower Unit Rebuild

Still nothing. Tried a little more pulling on the thing...pinion is just stuck. Is it common for these things to seize on the end of the drive shaft? Some friends have mentioned that there may be a pin locking the pinion to the shaft, but I think that's for the smaller hp motors. I don't want to crack the case tugging on it too hard. How can I get this prop shaft out????
 

billsnogo

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Re: '81 Johnson 140 V4 Lower Unit Rebuild

In my manual, they show a puller that has two plates attach to the driveshaft, then you have two bolts thread to it and will make contact with the block and pulls it out.

Sorry, didn't need one on mine, but sounds like it happens on occasion :(
 
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