81 Sea Ray 26 Sedan Bridge I/O to OB Conversion/Restore (Pics)

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[h=1]Called On Account Of Rain[/h]I did get some time on the boat today. Spent some time on the patio first, thinking through the seat design and how I would need to cut out the transom gunwale for it. But once I got to the boat, I struggled with marking my cuts. Nothing on this boat is flat, or level, or straight, or symmetrical. Just finding the center of the transom was a chore Took a while to get my markings.

Started cutting and got the rest of the port door cutout. About then is when I saw that the top of the transom gunwale had a structure for the former exhaust vents. It appears quite hefty, so this will alter my cutting plans.

The good news is that it was threatening rain for a long time, which meant no hot sun. But it finally did rain, and it’s been raining ever since. Work called on account of rain!

Oh well, there’s always tomorrow.

Sea ya…
 

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The thinking things through counts towards the final product...
 

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The thinking things through counts towards the final product...

You're right, of course. But it seems I spend more time thinking about working on the boat than actually working on the boat!
 

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[h=1]Monday Update[/h]Sitting on the patio this morning, it seemed cool, so I thought it was going to be pleasant working on the boat today. Not. All afternoon I?d work 10 minutes, sit ten minutes. And even when working, it was slow and unproductive. About 6:00 PM, the sun had come down, mostly, and I was able to work without stopping. I think I?m going to change my work plan, and just do 2 hours in the evenings (6:00 PM to 8:00 PM), and get everything else done in the daytime.

Took the hole saws to the stringer to make access for the water tank connections (3). Wasn't easy going through a double thick stringer. The hole saw would lock up if I didn't maintain the original angle. I also had to stop several times on each hole and breakout the cut piece, otherwise the saw couldn't go in any farther, So now, I?ll have to load the tank into the car again, bring it to the boat, and do a final check out/adjustment of the holes.

I also cut away the rest of the transom gunwale where the transom seat will be. I first cut away just part of it, planning on making use of some of the existing structure. But once I did that, it became obvious that the best course would be to just cut it out, fabricate a complete seat (will do at the salon) and set it in as a unit.

Here is the space that is left:

TransonAllCutOut.jpg



The piece I did leave angles back a bit and has a curve out at the bottom edge. I want to make use of the strength of this piece (at the curve out) as well as ensure my seat matches the angle at the outsides of the transom gunwales.

Next steps on this area, besides making the seat unit offsite, are to PB the top transom support and add lots of layers of FG to bring it all up to deck height. Followed by fairing, the area will be ready when the seat is complete.

One last thing I did was to first fit the 4 pieces I had cut out to plug the stern drive holes. Two pieces for each, they are shaped like a vase. Next, I?ll glue each pair together, then do another fitting before FG?ing.

So, some progress. Not as much as I?d have liked, but progress is progress.

Sea ya?
 

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I think I followed most of that ^^^ looks like a good bit of progress to me...

Hey, honey I finished cutting the back of the boat out today :facepalm: Wow, yikes :eek:

Impressive plans for the dual access 'doors' ~ hatches, either way, looking forward to seeing it develop!
 

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Hey, honey I finished cutting the back of the boat out today :facepalm: Wow, yikes :eek:

I know. I know. When I had my previous cruiser, if you told me I'd someday be cutting the entire back out of a boat, I'd have said your were crazy. But look at me now.

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[h=1]Quick Update[/h]Implemented the first installment of the work plan I mentioned yesterday: work evenings.

Got to the boat just before 6:00 PM and worked for an hour and a half. Short time, but productive. Mixed 3 batches of PB for the top side of the transom top support. Hopefully, tomorrow evening, I?ll be able to get several layers of FG on the transom top.

Quit on account of darkness. Got to get some lights!

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Wednesday

Another evening installment today. Got a little late start (6:00 PM). I took the water tank back to the boat to do a final check on the stringer holes I made for access to the water tank connections. The fill hole is right on. The vent hole could go back a quarter of an inch. Also, these two holes overlap, so I think I?ll flatten out the peaks and make it one hole. The supply hole is as low as I could make it, but still a little high for the connection on the tank. But no problem. I sloped the water tank support 2? overall, so I can raise that end of the tank a half inch with no problem. I?ll get some pictures up of the holes.

I cut the first layers of FG (CSM and 1708) for the top side of the transom top support. Need to do a bit of grinding before I put this glass down. I didn?t want to get really dirty today, so no grinding.

I planned 4 drains in the transom top support, 1 at each side of the transom seat and 1 in each end gunwale. All 3 spaces will have potential water ingress, so need to drain it off. Anyway, I just realized as I was writing this that I didn?t cut out the FG for the drain hole spacers (1 ?? PVC connectors). I?ll stand these up at the right spots and build the FG up around them. That will allow the drains to sit down into the FG so that almost all the water can drain. I?ll cut these just before I put the FG down.

I started templating the port side forward bulkhead before I had to get back to the salon. I need to get this bulkhead in before I start working on a crack in the deck, port side, just in front of the base of the windshield. I?m going to have to do some grinding out to see how bad the crack is, and I want the area supported.

Got a pack of light bulbs at Home Depot. Now my 2 drop lights actually make light.

No work on the boat tomorrow. VP debate, so we?re having a little debate party at the salon.

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[h=1]Looking For An Air Compressor (Gel Coat + Sanding)[/h]I’m thinking about buying an air compressor to run sanders and eventually to spray gel coat. The yard’s compressor is in use at the other end of the yard most of the time these days. Besides, it’s too small for gel coating, and when I use sanding/grinding tools, I spend half my time waiting for the compressor to catch up.

I’ve read a number of threads on air compressors. It appears most people think at least 5 HP with a 20 gallon tank is the minimum required. So, to go that size, I’m probably going to have to go with gas (only have 110V available).

I saw a brand new 6.5 HP gas compressor but it only had dual 4.5 gallon (9 gal total) tanks. Price is right ($300) and its new, so no repair costs for a while.

How important is the tank capacity, especially considering it is 6.5 HP? Will this work for gel coating? Sanding/grinding?
Sea ya…
 

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That little gas powered Mi-T-M 8Gallon I rented worked very well....I did hook it to my tank, so was essentially a 28 Gal tank...but it ran the airfile all day long and had no issues keeping a good air supply to the tool...
 

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That little gas powered Mi-T-M 8Gallon I rented worked very well....I did hook it to my tank, so was essentially a 28 Gal tank...but it ran the airfile all day long and had no issues keeping a good air supply to the tool...

Thanks troop. Several questions:

1) What HP was it?

2) Was it 8 gal or 28 gal?

3) Do you think the compressor itself was able to keep up with the demand or was it depending upon air stored in the tank at times (I know, my be hard to tell)?

Sea ya...
 

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I think it was a 5hp with 8 g tank...when connected to mine it made it 28...it would have worked without it too
 

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I think it was a 5hp with 8 g tank...when connected to mine it made it 28...it would have worked without it too

I think that's great news. So the 6.5 HP, 9 gal, new for $300 should be fine.

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Hey CK,

That sounds like great news on the compressor, keep us in loop as to how well it performs...for that kind of change, I might be interested in one...:D

L8r...
 

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[h=1]Today’s Question – Battery Switches[/h]I was sitting on my patio last night contemplating battery switches. It was quite profound… to switch or not to switch.

I will have 3 batteries: 2 starting, 1 house. I’m trying to decide whether I want to spend the money for switches on the 2 starting batteries. Let me give you some background

My Cruisers Yachts 2870 – Same battery arrangement. No big red battery switches. Just a DC Main on the breaker panel for the house battery (I always turned it off at dock). In my 9 years of owning this boat, I never had a dead starting battery.

Sea Ray 341 Sedan Bridge – Same battery arrangement – No big red battery switches.

I know small boat guys swear by the switches. But it seems cruising boats only worry about the house battery. Maybe because with the presence of a house battery, it is assumed nothing will be hooked to the starting batteries except the starter. And if the starter malfunctions and drags its battery down, you wouldn’t have been able to start that engine anyway.

My only concern is how to make it so the house battery is also charged (besides from generator or shore power) from the engines. I really don’t know how it was done on the 2870. Boat came without a generator (I put one in later), so the house battery was getting charged somehow. It had a charging system, but those usually don’t have DC inputs (but maybe it did – it was pretty big).

Any thoughts?

Sea ya…
 

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Seems like I read a post by oops sometime a good while back, he posted a marine house breaker panel that had lots of variable ins & outs, switched, breaker'd & etc.. I think it even had a switchable generator vs shore power setup too......

But past that :confused: :redface: & :facepalm:

Sounds complicated, best of luck.... Might post the Q in the electrical forum.....
 

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Seems like I read a post by oops sometime a good while back, he posted a marine house breaker panel that had lots of variable ins & outs, switched, breaker'd & etc.. I think it even had a switchable generator vs shore power setup too......

But past that :confused: :redface: & :facepalm:

Sounds complicated, best of luck.... Might post the Q in the electrical forum.....

Actually, I have such a panel and a dc panel as well. But except for the AC Main breakers, these breakers are to split out individual circuits, not one large breaker for the whole lot.

Oops! and I had a conversation about it when I posted the picture of the panel some time back. It may be his replies you remember.

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I don't think so, but may be... I scanned back to Feb2012 where you & he discussed it, but as I remember, it was an aluminum (or white/gray/silver) panel w/ black breaker assemblies & black labels, an amp/volt meter or 2 & some orange lit panels.....

So many threads............. :redface:
 

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I don't think so, but may be... I scanned back to Feb2012 where you & he discussed it, but as I remember, it was an aluminum (or white/gray/silver) panel w/ black breaker assemblies & black labels, an amp/volt meter or 2 & some orange lit panels.....

So many threads............. :redface:

If you find it (I know you're curious), please send me a link.

Thanks jb

Sea ya...
 
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