84 johnson

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she only runs on choke, can accelarate fine when choke is in she accelartes and shuts off please help.
 

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Re: 84 johnson

ok, from your PM, "i forget to mention i rebuilt the carb,fuelpump,addedfresh gas and oil mixture engine still does the samething when choke is pushed in it acclerates and cuts off it is an 1984 25 hp.'

it sounds like it is starving for fuel. did you follow the directions in the above link? did you remove the drain screw on the bowl, and then the high speed jet, and clean them, it has to be spotless, also the tube that goes up the center of the carb, has to be clear. i spray carb cleaner thru it.

also did you set the low speed needle according to this.
(Carburetor Adjustment - Single S/S Adjustable Needle Valve)
(J. Reeves)

Initial setting is: Slow speed = seat gently, then open 1-1/2 turns.

Start engine and set the rpms to where it just stays running. In segments of 1/8 turns, start to turn the S/S needle valve in. Wait a few seconds for the engine to respond. As you turn the valve in, the rpms will increase. Lower the rpms again to where the engine will just stay running.

Eventually you'll hit the point where the engine wants to die out or it will spit back (sounds like a mild backfire). At that point, back out the valve 1/4 turn. Within that 1/4 turn, you'll find the smoothest slow speed setting.

Note: As a final double check setting of the slow speed valve(s), if the engine has more than one carburetor, do not attempt to gradually adjust all of the valves/carburetors at the same time. Do one at a time until you hit the above response (die out or spit back), then go on to the next valve/carburetor. It may be necessary to back out "all" of the slow speed adjustable needle valves 1/8 turn before doing this final adjustment due to the fact that one of the valves might be initially set ever so slightly lean.

When you have finished the above adjustment, you will have no reason to move them again unless the carburetor fouls/gums up from sitting, in which case you would be required to remove, clean, and rebuild the carburetor anyway.

are you positive you have spark on both plugs, have you check the spark, immediately after the motor dies.
 

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Re: 84 johnson

Hey thanks again for answering sorry i respond so late i used the computer at work dont have one at home yet and can only use at certain time.Thankyou for all the info. but done all of those things and still dont work i can take the carb. apart with my eyes close thats how much i've worked on it also me and my dad are mechanics so its fustrating that we cant figure it out. one thing on your reply that cought my eye is the low speed needle part theres just one long needle on top of carb. if thats it cause i clean it very well but dont think should be adjusting it if engine is running choked i've tried. can get it to idle even acclerate great but when choked pushed in acclerates high then dies. all of the other jets are all clean weve used in like it is and go fishing but i rather have it running right if you know what i mean.changing sparkplugs can get expense after a while. thanks again for your help i'll let my dad know theres still good people out there. pli
 

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Re: 84 johnson

just wondring if u got my message im still not giving up i think maybe missing something on carb.or when running engine i dont see fuel shooting into butterfly only when i acclerate i see the fuel im about to buy a new carb. if thats my last choice hopfully not cant wait to see what you think thahks again.
 

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Re: 84 johnson

i have a 1984 johnson seahorse model# j25rcrd s/n e5909302 anymore info you have would be greatly apreciated i still think something wrong in carb.thanks for replying.your new friend Pli.
 

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Re: 84 johnson

i think you have a fuel pump problem, not keeping up, or you still have clogging in the jet orifices. having to choke is a fuel starvation problem. also could be air leak in fuel line, or clogged pick up screen in fuel tank, or vent not open on fuel tank.

the answer to your PM is the long post above.
 

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Re: 84 johnson

thanks for replying ill recheck everything you said. thanks again. Pli
 
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