87 Bayliner Question

Frank66

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Hey guys, yea another one of those new guy questions,lol. So last fall I buy myself an 87 Bayliner 2150 Cuddy (first boat) 5.0l cobra outdrive. Now I knew this boat was going to take some work, but couldn't afford a newer, better boat. Needs interior refinished and a good polish, so I get her running (big smile on face) runs good, a little rough on the idle but nothing a good tune up wouldn't cure (I hope). Bellows aren't in the best of shape, so I get new bellows and a gimble bearing while i'm at it. Getting too cold out to do anything at this point. So get it winterized and let it sit till spring. We now have the drive off and the gimble bearing out, then I notice engine mount bolts look like they are on an odd angle, grab a ratchet and socket and sure enough the bolt just spins. take the bolts out and the wood is gone. So here is my question, I know the proper way to do this is to pull the motor and rebuild (more than likely stringers and transom also) but is there any quick fix just get this floating money pit in the water, I'd like to try it out about a half a dozen times to see if I like the boat before I decide if I should start to rebuild or not. I don't want to put a pile on money into a boat I may not like. I do like the style, but will I like the way it rides and handles on the water? That's what I would like to find out before I start dishing out money. So is htere a way I can do it without pulling the motor for now or just cut my losses?

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Fireman431

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Re: 87 Bayliner Question

...I know the proper way to do this is to pull the motor and rebuild

Correct.

...but is there any quick fix just get this floating money pit in the water?

No.

You've already answered your own questions. Do the job. Do it right. Learn what to look for on your next boat so you don't have these issues again. This is a huge safety and stability problem. No quick fix.
 

Frank66

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Re: 87 Bayliner Question

I kind of figured that would be my answer but I was hoping there may be an easier way just to temporarily fix to try the boat out. I thought I knew what to look for! Yep it's a boat and look it's got a motor too! Let's buy it! lol.
 

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Re: 87 Bayliner Question

I kind of figured that would be my answer but I was hoping there may be an easier way just to temporarily fix to try the boat out. I thought I knew what to look for! Yep it's a boat and look it's got a motor too! Let's buy it! lol.

Ayuh,... At this point, if ya bubblegum it, you'll be trashin' more pieces...

It might be time to decide whether ya wanta Rebuild the Whole thing, or part it out, try to turn a small profit, then use that to buy a Better boat....
1 that Doesn't say OMC on it, Anywhere...
 

Summer Fun

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Re: 87 Bayliner Question

Welcome to iboats.

The 2150 is a great little pocket cruiser. :). Is yours the 2150 aft-cabin ??
 

Frank66

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Re: 87 Bayliner Question

No aft-cabin, I'm not too sure what to do now, maybe just start looking again for something that doesn't need so much work. I don't really have any place to do a restore.
 

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gee frank...

sorry to hear that.

`there is not much you can do to get it up on the water fast.

but you do realize that you could do this in one weekend right in your drive way.

we dont KNOW that the transom is shot untill you take some core samples.

the motor mounts can be re built and re glassed in a very short time.

yes you do need to pull the motor.....but in a boat that is done in less than an hour. then cut our the mounts....put new wood in.....glass it...

understand this is hypothtical untill you determine the condition of the stringers and transom. but it being an 87 before bayliner went to engineered stringers, chances are not good.

parting the boat out is an option. a tandem trailer is worth 800...the motor can and will sell fast for 2500. the drive and the housing is a fast 500.

that is 3800 for a different boat.
(the prices im quoting you are in the canadian market....the american market is different...but i would think the prices i mentioned are somewhat close.

if you choose to re build the mounts......take pictures and post them in the dry dock (the restoration section) and we can help you.

good luck.
 

Frank66

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Re: 87 Bayliner Question

Biggest problem is how to lift the motor out, that why I asked if it was possible to rebuild with the motor in.
 

Fireman431

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Biggest problem is how to lift the motor out, that why I asked if it was possible to rebuild with the motor in.

Cherry picker rental. A day will set you back $75 or so.
 

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Biggest problem is how to lift the motor out, that why I asked if it was possible to rebuild with the motor in.

It is really pretty easy. Tow truck, rent a cherry picker, or by one at harbor freight for about a hundred bucks (with 20% off coupon you get on on the internet). I had no prior experience and pulled mine in a little over an hour, by myself. Putting it back in was easy except for properly aligning it. I got it pretty close and then paid the local shop $50 to make it perfect.
 

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Mine must have been lower. A regular cherry picker worked fine for me. If by chance it is only the motor mount, does he need it all the way up and out to do the repair?
 

riptorn

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Mine must have been lower. A regular cherry picker worked fine for me. If by chance it is only the motor mount, does he need it all the way up and out to do the repair?
Take the wheels off the trailer. See them sitting on the side of the highway all the time. lol
 

Frank66

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Re: 87 Bayliner Question

Thanks for all the replies guys, as bubba pointed out, I don't think a cherry picker will do it. I don't think taking the wheels off would lower it enough but it's a thought. Maybe a tow truck, 50 dollar bill for you is quite reasonable, I don't think they'll put the key in the ignition around here for that. lol. I'm going to mull over the situation for a couple of weeks and make a decision, thanks for all the input guys.
 

Fireman431

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A HF cherry picker will not work, which is why I mentioned to go to an equipment rental company. They have the ones with extendable booms and adjustable ram mounting locations and the one I used could easily have cleared a 6' transom as it had a tip height at just over 9'.

A phone call is free. Find out what they have to offer.
 
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