93 Rude 70HP- problems in reverse

jvaccarino

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Outboard does not like to be put in reverse! Mostly when going from IDLE off the ramp, when its put in reverse, the motor will shut off right away. Then have to restart, and try again and again..

Would this have to do with the gear linkage?? Something not aligned/timed right?

Boat runs all day in idle.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 93 Rude 70HP- problems in reverse

(Compression & Spark Test)
(J. Reeves)

1st - Regardless of what problem one might encounter, always start with the basic troubleshooting procedure. Check the compression which should be in the range of 100+ psi (somewhat less on the smaller hp engines) and even on all cylinders.

2nd - With the spark plugs removed, rig up some type of spark tester whereas you can set a gap to be jumped. On magneto ignition systems.... and also the Battery Capacitance Ignition system OMC engines from 1968 to 1972, set the gap to 1/4". On the solid state OMC ignition systems from 1973 to the present, set the gap to 7/16". The spark should jump the gap with a strong blue lightning like flame..... a real strong blue snap!

If there was no spark, on engines from 1973 up, disconnect the RED main electrical plug at the engine. Remove the s/plugs. crank the engine via the starter solenoid (jumper bat term to small 3/8" term nut, not the ground nut) and observe spark. If spark is now okay as stated above, the usual cause is a shorted ignition switch.

If the above checks out as it should, and the engine dies out when throttle is applied or won't idle, it is usually due to one or both of two things. The carburetors are fouled, in which case the cure would be to remove, clean, and rebuild them..... or the timer base under the flywheel is sticking which would result in a retarded spark. If the engine will not fire/start at all even though you have the proper spark and compression, it's usually due to fouled carburetors.

To check the timer base for sticking (Engine Not Running), spin the prop to align the shifter dog with forward gear and while doing so, put the engine into forward gear. Now, while watching the timer base, slowly apply throttle clear up to full throttle. The timer base should move smoothly all the way up against the black rubber cap that is atached to the end of the full advance spark setting screw. If the timer base sticks, find out why and correct that problem.

Usually any sticking of the timer base is caused by one of the four retaining clamps being slightly too tight. Putting a very thin washer under the clamp cures that problem. Some boaters use a thin screwdriver to bend the clamp upwards slightly but I prefer the thin washer. The sticking can also be caused by having a faulty stator start to melt down, resulting in a sticky substance dripping down on the timer base nylon retaining ring.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 93 Rude 70HP- problems in reverse

it also could be caused by the idle speed set too low.
 

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Re: 93 Rude 70HP- problems in reverse

When it stalls, does it start running poorly then die or is it like turning off the key? Does it ever do it going into forward?
 

jvaccarino

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Re: 93 Rude 70HP- problems in reverse

It turns off like turning the key.. It doesn't spit and sputter then turn off. Does not stall when going forward either.

I kinda agree with tashasdaddy.. Is there an EXACT rpm the motor should Idle at? If I drop below 1000 it turns off.. I have IDLE set to about 1100/1200 right now, and it does not stall.
 
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