'94 Crownline 182 Restore transom/stringers/deck

[Rickmerrill]

Bow area.

 

[Rickmerrill]

Stern view.

 

[Rickmerrill]

Close up of boo-boo inside. The white is gelcoat showing thru.

 

[Woodonglass]

That's the Great thing about fiberglass, It can ALL be fixed fairly easily!!!

 

[Rickmerrill]

True, but I'm still trying to think of a witty comeback line for the "fairly easy" part. On the home front the Arauco plywood has been ordered and I should be picking it up today. Special thanks to atjohnson for a lead on a supplier in the area - tried a dozen big city suppliers with no luck. Finalizing my us composits order but having a hard time pulling the trigger. Part fear I'll forget something, part fear I won't be able to use up all the resin in the 3 month timeframe they recommend and part I'll actually have to go out in that heat and do some work. Yep, I'm an office boy.

 

[Rickmerrill]

Here is my tentative order from USC. As background it's an 18' boat, going to be glassing the transom, ski ladder, stringers, bulkheads and deck. Will be gelcoating the inner transom area, bilge below engine, deck from the front of the bench seat back and ski locker in grey. Will also be gelcoating two holes in the hull.

If anyone sees anything missing or a quantity out of whack please fee free to comment. I plan to buy rollers and other nic-nacks locally. When I finish I hope to come back with an update on how this worked out so others with similar size boats have an idea of what they might need.

Quanity Product Description and/or Catalog Number
50yds 1-1/2oz CSM
30yds 1708 Biaxial
4 5gal 435 Resin
2 4gal ¼"€ Cabosil (1.71lb)
1 4lb tub ¼"€ Chopped Strand
1 2lb Density Foam 80lb kit
1 Measur-matic
1 10 oz tube 3m 5200
1 Box of 24 2"€ Chip Brushes
1 Fiberglass Roller ½"€x4€"
1 Mixing Cups Quart Sleeve/50
1 Mixing Cups 2.5qt Sleeve/25
1 Graduated Cups 8oz Sleeve/25
1 Tongue Depressors Pack of 50
1 Stir Sticks Pack of 50
1 1pt Surfacing Wax
1 1gal White Gelcoat
1 4oz Black Tint
1 1oz Halyard Tint
1 1oz Grey Tint
1 1oz Yellow Tint
1 1oz Brown Colonial Tint

 

[Rickmerrill]

Just in case you were wondering this is what Arauco ply looks like. That's 4 sheets of 3/4" on the outside and 4 sheets of 5/8 (for the deck) towards the wall. Not perfect but a whole lot better than anything I saw at HD or Lowes. I count 7 plays on the 3/4" and 5 on the 5/8". The 'C' side had a football or two and a few cracks/knots. Not a wood worker so let me know if this is not the right way to store it. And the sanded face

 

[Woodonglass]

I think 1 lb of 1/4 Chopped strand will be plenty You only use 1/4 cup per quart and a 1/4 cup weighs less than an ounce. Other than that, I think you're pretty close

 

[Rickmerrill]

Thank you sir. Noted in my order.

 

[Rickmerrill]

Just a comment about 7" grinders. It can lessen your grinding time especially on horizontal surfaces where it's weight works to your advantage. On vertical surfaces it's weight can wear you out - particularly if you're a small old guy like me!

 

[Rickmerrill]

#71 Placed order with US Composits today. Had them send it by common carrier and I'll go pick it up at their local facility. Shipping was about $137 and they said you DO NOT have to pay the $26 hazardous goods fee per 5gal pail of resin if you use a common carrier, nice surprise! Got the transom pieces glued up with Tightbond III so it's ready to go in once the shipment arrives and I lay some glass down to fix the transom grinding boo-boo. Tomorrow I can start cutting wood for and gluing up the engine supports and I need to build my clamps for the transom. I couldn't find any dust masks handy and I'm pretty allergic to sawdust so I put on the full face respirator and boy it was nice. No breathing sawdust, no sawdust in the eyes and no problems with it fogging up. Highly recommend anyone reading this to go with the full face over the half face respirator.

 

[Rickmerrill]

Looks like my USC order will be here by Friday. Will be making my clamps tomorrow. I got the new transom wood cut and glued up, just used construction paper for the template. [ URL=http://s1328.photobucket.com/user/Rick_merrill/media/Boat/E0E89136-6D1E-41F9-8070-429DC9FA966D_zpsdorumh4p.jpg.html]

[/URL] Also finished the new engine supports. I duplicated the originals, petty simple, two 2x6's with a piece of 3/4 sandwiched between then two pieces of 3/4 ply stacked on top. Used the belt sander with 40 grit to plane everything level and round off all the sharp edges.

 

[bigdirty]

About 'storing' the 4x8 sheets of ply, I always try to lay them flat. It takes up room yes, but I have found standing them on their ends or sides against a wall can lead to some slight warping or bowing, even after only 2-3 days. Makes it a real PITA when you got to table saw an 8 ft piece and its binding up and not making nice 90* or straight cuts :lol: You're doing some nice work though, and don't worry about the glass work.. it gets easy after the first few batches/layup sessions :lol:

 

[Rickmerrill]

Thanks Bigdirty, Warping was what I was worried about and your right, unused floor space is getting scarce. Got some cracks in the floor to work around too. Maybe put a piece of plastic down to keep floor moisture out. If I can't find a good flat spot on the floor I wonder if 4 2x4's clamped across front and back (8 total) using all-thread on the ends, would hold them straight. Your right about glassing worries too! Kind of got a mixture of exhilaration and terror going on in my head about it. I plan to start with some practice on small stuff first - PB for some gouges, CSM and 1708 to beef up the transom grind thru and engine support cut thru and maybe glass in the support for the ladder. Hopefully that will give the knowledge and confidence level a boost.

 

[Rickmerrill]

I got a little bit done today. Here are a few pictures.

My solution to preventing the plywood from warping. Let me know if anyone thinks this won't be good enough.

I have a hole in my transom, the good kind!

Core of how the bond looks. I got in a mood to "get-er-done" and didn't want to stop so I "forgot" to use screws but I piled half of my garage full of junk on top of it and it seems to have worked.

 

[Woodonglass]

I was going to suggest clamps but you beat me to it!! Transom Glue up looks GREAT!!!:rockon:

 

[Rickmerrill]

Thanks man, was telling myself I was taking a big risk on the glue up but sometimes I guess you can cheat the gods of fate! Anybody seen my inner transom plate? Can't find it anywhere in the garage. Maybe it's time for a cleanup. My all time record for lost things was the boat cover., took me 6 years to find it in a box up in the garage attic. While you're looking for it let me know if you find my set of truck keys with the house key attached - that's only been missing for a few months now so I think it's a little early to panic.

 

[Rickmerrill]

Never mind, I found it but let me know if you find the keys!

 

[Rickmerrill]

Picked up the goodies at the freight terminal, while unloading the 4 5gal pails of resin one had a sticker that said it was Silmar 41 Clear Polyester Casting Resin but on the lid someone wrote 435 on all 4. So is it a wrong label or wrong resin. Wondered if it would look different but saw they were still open so I called to ask if you can tell by looking. The person I talked with was very helpful and it turns out the one was just mislabeled. I told him I had put 3 of the pails in the house to keep em cooler to increase the lifespan. He said at about 85 degrees it does start to shorten it but not to store them inside because it would stink up the whole house.Lesson learned. Anyway, I couldn't unload the fiberglass rolls because I didn't have a stand built. Like I always say, I am no woodworker but I managed to come up with a design and found just enough wood and screws and came up with something in about an hour. I was pretty proud, here it is!

 

[atjohnson]

Looks like you are ready to start the fun. You will be proud of that hour spent on the rack. It is surely better than being in the floor all of the time.