a little gas smell in the bow of the cuddy

gastite

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1998 Seaswirl 208 cuddy.
the tank is in the middle, why would there be gas smell in the cuddy.
The cushions do not smell like gas. The engine area does not smell like gas.

I'm lost and confused.
 

Chad Flaugher

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Oh crap, that's bad. When you park yer boat on land, is your bow lower than your stern? If you have a fuel leak, it'll follow the bottom of your hull to the low spot. If your boat is being stored bow down, that's how it's gettn' there. The bigger problem however, is the leak! Please be careful.
 

kevincave

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just now having my tank pulled out of my 89 sierra cuddy, gas in the bow like stated above. hole in the tank.if your ingenious you can pressure test the tank like i did to confirm..
 

Texasmark

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Since you are dealing with gasoline you obviously need to be careful. Some fumes may be the result of refueling vapors. As you probably know gas is heavier than air and will seek the lowest level. Depending on where your tank is located in the boat, the size of the leak, if any, and the ability of any leaked gas to get to the stern would have to be evaluated, but per Chad's remark, getting the bow as high as is practical on your trailer would/might get liquid to flow to the stern, if a leak and bad enough to generate a reasonable amount of liquid. But to me a leak of that size would permeate the whole boat including the engine compartment.

It doesn't take but a smidgen of gas to make fumes that are detectable with the human nose. If you had a source that was anything to be concerned about you would have a nose full.

I'm sure you always turn on the blower on your bilge vent prior to starting your engine to clean out any fumes that may have collected there and it runs while the engine is running.

On an 89 year model, a leak in the tank may or may not be of concern due to the material from which the tank is made and age of the tank. Steel marine tanks are usually "terne" plated (a tin coating on raw steel to protect it from corrosion) which eliminates corrosion as long as it is homogenius with no voids. Alum or plastic/glass are usually maintenance free.

Fuel lines on the other hand can deteriorate and a "weeping" fuel line, usually at a hose barb connection is not uncommon in older lines. Also the gasket around the fuel level sensor plate (on top of the tank) can also deteriorate; sometimes cure is as simple as snugging up the plate's mounting screws....don't overtighten as you can destroy the gasket, especially if it is cork. So you might see if you can access your tank and check these things out.

HTH,
Mark
 

Natesms

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I've been fighting this issue for the last couple of years myself. I have no signs of leaks anywhere, all the hoses look and feel good. My boat never leaves the water so everything should always drain to the back of the boat if there was a leak. My tanks are mid/rear of the boat though and technically inside the cabin. The bilge never smells like fuel and running the blower has no impact on it. I've been stumped but will be working on it again here shortly. I will let you know if I find anything.
 

gm280

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My very own personal thinking is, find out where that is coming from before venturing back out on the water again. And if that means tearing up the floor to find or fix it, then so be it. If a serious problem happens out on the water, there is no place to run. So you have to deal with that issue onboard if it happens. I would search that boat everywhere until I found the reason for that smell and certainly fix it and not just a mere patch job! But that is just my opinion...
 

Texasmark

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Well, back to fueling fumes getting in the boat. Worth a consideration and if so, would dissipate over time so you wouldn't smell it always.

Do you smell it always? Does it come and go with certain things you do? Is ambient or engine running temperature involved? Where is your tank vent exit? Do you smell fumes if you put your nose to it? If so, a lot, just faint, none? Do you smell it when you are in rough water only?
 

gastite

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Thanks guys.
I just went to the boat today. Let me say I just got the boat 2 weeks ago and its still winterized.
I also just sold my Sea Ray 34 Sedan flybridge so these smaller boats are new to me.

I opened the cap in the center where the gas tank is and all the hoses and the sender. It does not smell like gas and its real dry. I took a rag and a wire and ran it around the tank, no wetness.

I opened and removed the engine cover. So very clean and nothing below in the bilge area, nothing, dry as can be and no gas smell. I looked at the lines; all look good and saw no signs of leakage or drips.

I think Chad could be wright, I did notice the boat was not level in its parking area and there is a gas station just a block away and I bet you a million he filled up the boat and went to the parking area for winter and just un-hitched the boat and had it winterized and that is it. Any extra fuel that might have been in the vent line then was forced forward because the boat was not level; it was a little bow forward due to the street.

The boat will be de-winterized April 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] so I?ll ask the mechanic to take look see and let?s get the motors running and see where we stand. I can?t wait to hear that 5.7 liter roar.
 

GA_Boater

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Is the boat covered with the tank vent inside the cover? Of so, it's a common occurrence because the fuel vents the fumes from heating and have no where to go except inside the boat. Just something to look for.
 

Chris1956

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I have a Seaswirl of the same year. The tank is likely plastic, and likely doesn't leak. However, on my boat, the tank fittings were steel and rusted badly. That could be the source of the leak. You might check into that area. I replaced my fuel pickup fitting with a brass garboard drain fitting I modified.
 

gastite

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its seems the smell is gone.
we dropped in the water and ran around Lake Washington in Seattle and it gets up and goes with that 5.7 under the bonnet.

Now the fuel gauge does not work (ill check the ground first) and the RPM gauge does not work. RPM did work for a few hours and then went to max and stays their until I shut off the engine then it goes to 0. I give up sometimes, its one thing or another :(
 
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