A new low

[Haut Medoc]

Re: A new low

One of these days you may sober up enough to actually kick yourself after you've read some of the things that you regularly post.

See avatar!......​

 

[BoatBuoy]

Re: A new low

Everybody is correct. It's Josh's fault.

With that being said, here's the way it goes. When you sue, sue everybody in sight. The judge will sort it out as to culpability.

Years ago, my father bought a new Pontiac. Soon it's differential destroyed itself. Local dealer fixed it, but wouldn't honor the warranty. Dad got a lawyer and sued. At the advice of the lawyer, suit was filed against the dealer that sold him the car, the dealer (not the same) that repaired the car, General Motors, Inc., and Pontiac Division of General Motors. No one expected all parties to become participants, but no one was left out. Sure enough, the judge sorted it out and dismissed the case against all but Pontiac Division. That's just how the game is played in law. If you sue one interest, and the judge decides that interest isn't culpable and dismisses the case, you have to start all over.

In this case, the lawyer did just what he was supposed to. Seems to me he just didn't have a case to begin with, but if you're determined to sue, sue everybody in sight.

 

[SS MAYFLOAT]

Re: A new low

In Ohio, it has been a law since the early 80's that holds the establishment that sells alcoholic beverages liable. The dance clubs and party houses seemed to deminish overnight. The once Happy Hours and drink specials were then also limited to early hours vs evening hours. Also this law was put into effect or the state would have lost big bucks in federal tax dollars.

Everyone bad mouths pot, cell phones, second hand smoke, and other minor driving offenses,,,,,,,but alcohol seems to be up there being okay to do. It all boils down to making the individual responsible. Everyone is sober before they get drunk and knows what the law is. Getting drunk and forgetting about the law is one **** poor excuse.

What is it with baseball pitchers? Cleveland Indians lost 3 pitchers in a boat accident in Florida years ago. I don't think they sued the owner of the dock they hit.

 

[treedancer]

Re: A new low

Quote Fly Rod



There is no one other to blame then Josh, he is an adult, he knew better and he is a "POTHEAD!!"


He made a mistake and paid the price, I thought I would put the accusation that he was a pot head to rest though, the results of his complete blood test came in, no drugs whatsoever, blood alcohol was almost twice the legal limit of the state of Missouri.

Not trying to defend the family?s position of suing everybody in sight, just stating the facts, no need accusing him of something that he wasn't . The car was a rental, who knows what was in it prior too him renting it. He was talking on the phone while going to some young ladies house, maybe they were going to partake a bit of herb when at her place, guess we?ll never know.

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: A new low

Why are conservatives so hung up on pot anyway....
It's been around longer than alchoholic beverages.....
Being drunk impairs your motor skills more than pot, by far....​

 

[12Footer]

Re: A new low

Why are conservatives so hung up on pot anyway....
It's been around longer than alchoholic beverages.....
Being drunk impairs your motor skills more than pot, by far....​

To conservatives, laws mean things. Alcohol abuse is epidemic, much more deadly on our nation's roads, and is more detrimental to health than pot. We neocons know this as well as you.
However, we define breaking the law as a criminal act (in the same way as we define DUI).
Many of us neo-cons also see criminal acts as immoral acts. We try to avoid such things, and we are hung-up on morality. This dictates that we strive (tho, not always succede) ,in living within those parameters as opposed to trying to re-define ,"decriminalze", or legalize immorality.
Relate this to the temporence movement durring prohibition days. They walked into bars and smashed booze, marched and picketted in the streets, and made a general nuisance of themselves, some merely because of the moral dictates written in the Bible alone.
It's just as immoral for many of us conservatives to get "drunk on wine" (as the Bible puts it), as it is to drive drunk -- as it is to sell, purchase, possess , or use illegal drugs.

I hope this clears it up, HM.

 

[treedancer]

Re: A new low

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[WillyBWright]

Re: A new low

To "Conservatives" law means things??? HAH! Maybe you should inform Junior of that.
FISA is a LAW, not a suggestion. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Shall I go on? If Law means something to conservatives, he's a traitor to your kind.

Back on subject, I think daddy should sue the alcoholic beverage bottle cap manufacturers for making them Removable!
Forgive me for being unsympathetic, but Moral Values and Personal Responsibility begin with Mom and Dad! To me, this lawsuit speaks volumes of this pathetic lowlife scum that insults decent folk by having the audacity to call himself "Dad"!

 

[12Footer]

Re: A new low

To "Conservatives" law means things??? HAH!

yes, it does, Willy.

Maybe you should inform Junior of that.

Who is "Junior", dood? My son? If so, he is a good kid... NEVER been on the wrong side of the law (that i know of).I'm proud of him, and i brought him up to RESPECT the law.
Sometimes you type in a very strange, almost foreign language,Willy.

FISA is a LAW, not a suggestion. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Shall I go on? If Law means something to conservatives, he's a traitor to your kind.

Really -- what ARE you "going on" about???? I realise concepts like obeying laws and morality can sometimes confuse liberals -- but NOW you are confusing me....THAT STUFF MUST BE CONTAGIOUS!! You should maybee try to stay away from those places liberals congrigate ,like Starbucks, yugo dealerships and anti-war marches, at least until you can string concious thought into sentances,man.

Back on subject, I think daddy should sue the alcoholic beverage bottle cap manufacturers for making them Removable!

That sounds about par for the liberal course,Willy. I.E.:Sue the gunmaker for making the gun you shoot somebody with, eh?
Sue the bartender for pouring the drinks the drunk drank?
Typical. I guess that's why there are so many liberal judges and lawyers.... It just seems to follow their moral interests

Forgive me for being unsympathetic, but Moral Values and Personal Responsibility begin with Mom and Dad! To me, this lawsuit speaks volumes of "Dad"!

I think you are talking about my son!!!!
I should give him a call, or send him a link to this.. He needs to tell ME what he told YOU. He has some 'splainin to do!
Get a grip on reality, while I do that. mkay? yer vains are poppin-out of your posts.
BTW, I agree fully with that last paragraph, and it is basically what i tried to explain to HM... Such respect begins with a moral life. Maybee you missed that part?

Say "no" to drugs.

 

[WillyBWright]

Re: A new low

What I previously wrote here is Humbly retracted. See emoticons on previous post. (You take things WAY too personally 12Footer! Maybe you should lend your expertise to something other than Dockside Chat sometime. I'm sure the boating world would appreciate your contributions up topside as well. )

To All... Remember those that fought and died to keep us Free on this Memorial Day weekend. Don't relinquish that for which they fought and died! Never succomb to immoral propriety. Live free or die enslaved.

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: A new low

Once again it is everybody elses responsibility to look after the idiot's !!!
Each individual should be responsible for their own actions be it Drink, Drugs, Guns, Violent behaviour or whatever else they do. It should not be the responsibility of everyone else to babysit the drunks and junkies in our societies. Enough bullcrap frm the lawyers or pretty soon it will be our responsibility for staying home one night and not going to a bar to babysit some out of control idiot !!!

 

[12Footer]

Re: A new low

Once again it is everybody elses responsibility to look after the idiot's !!!
Each individual should be responsible for their own actions be it Drink, Drugs, Guns, Violent behaviour or whatever else they do. It should not be the responsibility of everyone else to babysit the drunks and junkies in our societies. Enough bullcrap frm the lawyers or pretty soon it will be our responsibility for staying home one night and not going to a bar to babysit some out of control idiot !!!

Amen.

 

[kenmyfam]

Re: A new low

Amen.

Glad you are on the same page !!!!

 

[RubberFrog]

Re: A new low

I'll bet John Edwards is representing the father.

 

[Haut Medoc]

Re: A new low

It's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it!.....​

 

[JRJ]

Re: A new low

I can't even see the job, let alone, any gotta do it workers.