a persons opinion about 4stroke motors

boatster

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Re: a persons opinion about 4stroke motors

Don't blame the Chinese workers, blame the American businessmen that are looking to make their big buck and split! Put the blame where it belongs. :D
 

rodbolt

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Re: a persons opinion about 4stroke motors

cannot blame a chinese. they are just trying to work and better themselves and their families. kinda like most of us do. I blame the big tycoons and the lawyer/politicians that write the laws slanted to their favor and then they and their buddies make money for years afterwards. but I guess thats capitolism at work. better than communism but sometimes just barely. all I was refering to is the fact that more and more of our mid-level production jobs are heading out. less and less of our studentsw are taking courses in technical fields. coillege degrees are nice, I see very few engineers that can actually program,setup and run production on a lathe or a mill, or reset transformers on power poles and buss bars or lay water and sewr pipes and operate the equipment that does it. college degrees are great,dont get me wrong. but someone has to be trained to run and repair the machines that make the stuff and make it work. its a shame that almost all of the wood shops,metal shops and technical training programs have dissapeared from schools. most due to liability concerns, yet big football stadiums are mandatory for new school construction it seems.
 

31900

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Re: a persons opinion about 4stroke motors

Rodbolt,<br />USA is not alone in this. Australia suffers similarly. I am one who did an apprenticeship and then a degree and I see so many engineers just as you say, unable to do the common dog whatever. Very cheap Chinese products that work reasonably outprice the local ones and jobs disappear. Soon China will be the only place this sort of production is viable, up will go their price and there will be very few left that could compete. Not a good outlook. We are importing tradesmen constantly and need some good government direction to encourage employers to hire apprentices and to look to other means of training. Beware of the Asian takeover. They seem to be the smart ones at the moment.
 

BillP

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Re: a persons opinion about 4stroke motors

When USA production facilities started going "offshore" it was only the blue collar jobs lost here. Now the higher educated Chinese are taking over the white collar work. Pay rate here in the USA is $125k (semiconductor engineer)and the equiv Chinese guy is $30k. The semiconductor mfg company I used to work for had 4500 employees 15 yrs ago. They have been ramping production "offshore" to cut costs. Now they have approx 450 employees and the USA mfg factory doors will close in another yr or two. They get products faster, better and cheaper with what they now call "virtual factories" in China. It will end up being a small core group in the USA to manage customers here.
 

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Re: a persons opinion about 4stroke motors

I think you guys got off the subject.
 
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