A word of precaution

[JB]

Re: A word of precaution

Had a conversation with #1 daughter (RN Practitioner, NICU) about this because I am alarmed by how many people seem unaware of all of the risks of refusing immunization.

If you have not had the shot you are a potential carrier, even if you have few or no symptoms.

How many people are you willing to infect? If they are very old, very young or in poor health they might die.

 

['96 Charger]

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I think I'm going to get one this year. Working in retail my immune system is pretty good but almost always get bad sick in the fall. Not the flu but the virus itself may be what causes my yearly respiratory infection to kick into warp drive.

 

[Drowned Rat]

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Had a conversation with #1 daughter (RN Practitioner, NICU) about this because I am alarmed by how many people seem unaware of all of the risks of refusing immunization.

If you have not had the shot you are a potential carrier, even if you have few or no symptoms.

How many people are you willing to infect? If they are very old, very young or in poor health they might die.

Yes, it's a good point.

The vaccine is a dead virus and cannot give you the flu. It doesn't work that way. Your body can have a reaction to the vaccine, which feels like you're getting sick, but that is actually what is protecting you from getting a full blown flu. Also what a lot of people don't understand about the flu vaccine is that while it may not provide 100% protection, it does provide some relief even if you get the flu. For some, that could mean everything? literally. I wouldn't even consider not having my kids vaccinated.

But, to each his own. It's just a shame people refuse the shot based on incorrect assumptions that they view as fact.

 

[bruceb58]

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I always get the flu shot. Never had any ill affects from it.

I am hearing al these "stories" about people getting sick after getting the flu shot. The only way you are going to get sick getting the flu shot is picking up something at the doctor's office when you go get the shot.

 

[DaNinja]

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So I'm supposed to do a half bottle of Gentleman Jack the night before the shot and the other half the night after! And I do it while working out in the sauna?

The point of the OP was not enough alcohol and too cool of temps? Right?

 

[Kiwi Phil]

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This family gets lined up and "jabbed" every year. Swine flu too.

Asked our Dr about points raised above (in April...autumn), following adverse publicity on, of all places, that trusted source of accurate information, the TV news.

Dr's answer. "Completely inaccurate. I have always told you to book in early and you'll have no trouble. Now how's the prostrate?".
Guess what....no one here has every had the flu.The kid brings home a cold from school, but no body else gets it.

gonefishie...you don't think you are "shooting the mail-man" do you? Hope you get over it soon anyway.
Cheers
Phillip

 

[RicMic]

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We are quite a bit overdue for a major flu pandemic, the last one in the early 1900's killed as many as 50 MILLION people. A flu shot dosn't protect you from everything, so yes you may still get sick, but if you don't die, I would consider that a plus.

 

[gonefishie]

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I'm not shooting the mail man Phil. The dogs are enough of his problem.

All I'm saying is, make sure you're healthy and take it easy for few days. I'm no stranger to cold air, little rest, plenty of alcohol and strange women weekend. I didn't get sick last year so I must have pick up the cold from the numerous different individuals that I ran into.

 

[eaglejim]

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I never had a flu shot and the last time I was sick was in "75" heck that was the last time I saw a doctor but mrseagle is a RN and has me taking all sorts of vitamins and detoxing all this month

 

[BuzzStPoint]

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Years ago,
My grandmother never got any flu shots. Didn't believe in them. Even though her doctor always pushed it.. Finally one year she decides to get one. "Flu is real bad this year" they told her.

She got her flu shot. Later she spent 2 weeks in the hospital for pneumonia.
I never had one, and don't think I will either.

 

[cougar1985]

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We are quite a bit overdue for a major flu pandemic, the last one in the early 1900's killed as many as 50 MILLION people. A flu shot dosn't protect you from everything, so yes you may still get sick, but if you don't die, I would consider that a plus.

only if they got the strain correct, otherwise your just as much at risk as anybody else.JB ,also have many rn,s as friends etc and not one takes the shot.if it makes you feel better go for it, me, not now not ever.im actually a little odd when it comes to being sick with the flu as my appetite goes off the chart ,cant get enough to eat,weird!mind you its been many years since ive been sick and i dont shy away from anybody that is sick either ,it just seems it doesnt like me thats all,lol.

 

[Philster]

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Some things to keep in mind:

A few dozen people died last year from the flu in each of your respective areas. 200,000 were in hospitals because of the flu. Up to About 36-40,000 die each year. (Some years are less).

Nobody died from the flu vaccine last year.

The flu vaccine prevents several strains of the flu, but not all. Each year, the virus mutates into different strains. Flu vaccine makers have to determine which strains are likely to be the trouble each year.

Flu vaccine doesn't keep you from getting sick from other ailments. There are plenty of other things to make you sick.

Throwing up and not keeping stuff down/in is not from the flu. The flu is a respiratory ailment. Having the flu will feel like the life-threatening illness that it is. Once you have it, you will never forget what having the flu means, and you'll want to punch anyone who calls a stomach bug the flu, or punch those who get bad head/chest colds and call it the flu.

Anecdotal evidence is useless, because those who got the flu last year and died from it cannot chime in here. Further, if you were to gather up all those who received the flu vaccine, you'd be able to demonstrate that none of them got the flu virus for which they were vaccinated.


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[korygrandy]

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I got vaccinated free at work last year. I still had colds but no flu. This was the first year I remember getting vaccinated. My arm was really sore for over a week. I don't understand the medical importance and probably never will. To me it seems like they are guessing and checking each year and HOPE they get the vaccine correct. This is just my perception...wonder why it is that way???

That H1N1 sure did create some jobs...but without consequence it also created higher medical costs to insurance companies.

I wonder of all those people who died because of the flu, how many were vaccinated last year.

If I apply this theory to something simple like crossing an intersection it appears I would be better off crossing wearing an orange reflective vest...but would I?

 

[Philster]

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Isn't crossing the intersection safer with stop lights, and cars with anti-lock brakes and modern tires, while wearing glasses (for those who need them), and hearing aids (for those who needs them)?

When you cross an intersection, there are dozens of things going on that work to get you across safely. Saying that someone got hit by a car at an intersection is not cause to discount all the safety measures that go into making intersections safer.

Remember: Nothing guarantees anything, it only changes the odds. Like boating: I know safety minded folks who died, and idiots that lived. Doesn't mean we disregard safety. The flu shot will sicken some, but it won't kill them. And some people WILL DIE this year from common flu strains that would not kill them if they were vaccinated.

 

[Limited-Time]

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I was at a Bachelor Party way back in another life time. There were copious amounts of Ouzo consumed by all, and one attendee in particular. He was sick for 2 days following the party, and swears to this day it was the flu. We all agreed it was the flu, the Ouzo Flu. Though I'm sure the CDC ever offically recognized or categorized it.

 

[mxfever]

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I get the shot every year and have for years without any issue (knock on wood). Last year I was required to get the shot for the regular flu as well as the Swine flu (remember that?) because my twins were premature and very susceptible to getting sick. I'll get one again this year and hope that I don't get any side affects.

I wanted to add to what I had previously mentioned. This year I got my shot as normal, however I didn't have the same results. I wasn't sick but didn't feal right for about 5 days. The best way i can describe it was it almost felt like a hangover. Didn't have a lot of energy and when I ate I felt nausiated. Now when I recieved the shot I was on the healing end of a chest cold. I asked the nurse before recieving the shot if it mattered and she said "it shouldn't". I've been getting the shot every year since 1996 and this is the first time I have had any side affects. Just be sure your 100% healthy before getting the shot.

 

[ezmobee]

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My wife felt like crap this year for a couple days after getting hers. I don't get one as I don't voluntarily do needles.

 

[Fly Rod]

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My first flu shot was in 2007, doctors orders. Was always healthy, never missed a day of work in 35 years. Went and had a free flu shot a couple of weeks ago mentioned it to my friend that he should get one, his response was no. Well, he hadn't been to coffee so I stopped by his house and guess what, he has had the flu for three days.

 

[lncoop]

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.im actually a little odd when it comes to being sick with the flu as my appetite goes off the chart ,cant get enough to eat,weird!

Wow, me too! Didn't realize it was the flu causing me to eat all the time. Finally the excuse I've been looking for. Had the flu my entire adult life I reckon. Who knew?

 

[lncoop]

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Hey Charger, where do you work if you don't mind my asking?