Adding a Third Battery for Ice Maker ?

UncleWillie

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Re: Adding a Third Battery for Ice Maker ?

So, all he needs is a $1000 worth of batteries, a $200 worth of relays, and your ACR which may be another $400 and then he will be set?

I suggested the ACR as a solution to the folks who want to sequence the batteries. I do not recommend that solution.

If he is going to be out for over a week and the batteries die on the first day in the evening as opposed to in the afternoon, what is the point?
He will need to run the engine/alternator or a generator another 10 hours every day just to recharge the batteries.
He might as well forgo the batteries and carry the extra 200 lbs as fuel and make ice directly from the generator as needed.
 

sam am I

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Re: Adding a Third Battery for Ice Maker ?

Anyone notice the OP has responded only once early in this now two-page thread? He's probably wondering what the heck did I start????????????????????????? Good thing he didn't ask the "what's the best oil" question! A portable generator that can be run whenever needed solves the problem for a lot less money. If out for 7 - 10 days at a time it would seem prudent to have one anyway -- whether one has an ice maker or not. Small Honda generators can be had for $599 - $999 and they are very quiet.

At those prices.......those would be INVERTER Generators (a gas engine with an inverter!!).......rotflmao, killing me here ppl .....Hmmmm, seems we just made that out of the engine he already has, but having two now is cool too, rolling eyes.

Soooo......approx 1 gal/8hr 24hrs/8 = 3 gal/day * 10 days = 30 gals/trip * $3.50/gal = $105/trip.

I'm off to the funny farm, plz let me in, i can't do this anymore.
 

bruceb58

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Re: Adding a Third Battery for Ice Maker ?

An inverter generator allows them to run at much lower RPM depending on the load(better fuel economy).

I suggested the ACR as a solution to the folks who want to sequence the batteries. I do not recommend that solution.
Agree. Absolutely no good reason to do that.
 
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Silvertip

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Re: Adding a Third Battery for Ice Maker ?

At those prices.......those would be INVERTER Generators (a gas engine with an inverter!!).......rotflmao, killing me here ppl .....Hmmmm, seems we just made that out of the engine he already has, but having two now is cool too, rolling eyes.

Soooo......approx 1 gal/8hr 24hrs/8 = 3 gal/day * 10 days = 30 gals/trip * $3.50/gal = $105/trip.

I'm off to the funny farm, plz let me in, i can't do this anymore.

The door is open - come on in. Yes, you did create a solution -- using a 4.3 V6 to charge batteries. But now I get it. You want the small generator to run 24x7 even though ice production is not needed 24x7 (unless of course the OP drinks a lot more than I do). There have been several proposed solutions, all of which require the 4.3 V6 to run, run frequently, and for long periods of time to keep a large battery bank charged. The generator solution was presented because in a 7 - 10 day outing, I suspect there will be long periods of down time. Since each day has approximately 10 hours of darkness during which a fair amount of that time lights are required and perhaps a TV/stereo is in use. So it is not just the ice maker that is going to suck at that battery bank. How much simpler can it be than to plug the ice maker into a generator and run it whenever the need for a new ice supply is needed. Nothing else needs to change. If the intended use of the ice maker is ALWAYS during a time when the engine is running the OP needs to do nothing. Apparently that is not the case since he presented a problem that obviously is due to down-time and the need to make ice.

Running a 4.3 V6 for non-propulsion purposes is a waste of fuel. The Honda 2000i is rated up to 9.6 hrs/gal so those numbers are far less than one would burn running the 4.3V6 to do the same job with the added benefit of running other stuff without the worry of running down a battery bank. What a waste of fuel to sit on a remote beach with a 4.3 running the north side of 2000 rpm just to charge some batteries. By the way, a Honda 1000i weighs 29# and the 2000i a bit more and can be used for power anywhere should the need arise. A big Trojan (the battery) weighs how much, and costs how much, and altered/sequenced electrical costs are what, and the increased complexity and failure possibilities certainly do not adhere to the KISS principle do they? All of the suggestions presented in this thread will work. But anytime an attempt is made to add a heating appliance or a large motor driven appliance like A/C or in this case an ice maker, to a smaller recreational boat with a 12 volt electrical system, one needs to make compromises. Unlike our government, most folks realize there is a limit as to how much money one can throw at a problem to come up with a reasonable solution. The issue here, is to scrap the ice maker idea and look for other means of refrigeration, or if ice is really that crucial, one pays the price in fuel, equipment modifications, weight, complexity, inconvenience and other factors that creep in. I think the OP, by now, has an idea what he's up against.
 
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Thalasso

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Re: Adding a Third Battery for Ice Maker ?

OK, i can't be the only guy who wants an onboard ice maker, how does anyone else do this?

I am looking for a solution not anecdotal quips.

I am out for 7-10 days at a time, no shore power, no ice store.

I would like to have an ice maker. I even have the room to install one. Buy yourself a large cooler ( a good one Fridged Ridged or Grizzly) and store on the swim platform if you can. The only reason i don't have an ice maker is i don't want to be making ice from the freshwater holding tank. Even though it has some Clorox added it's just the thought of it. Good when your hooked up to city water supply. When we go away for days on end i just put a large cooler on the swim platform and I'm good for 7 days.
 
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