Always wear your life jacket in the water!!!

45Auto

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Re: Always wear your life jacket in the water!!!

Bubba and Mudskunk have it right. If you feel the need to carry an iron umbrella to avoid the chance of getting hit by a meteor, more power to you. Just don't try to force it on everyone else. Wearing a PFD is one of those "feel-good" things that the government has no business in, and should be left to adult discretion. An adult should be able to decide if they want to go for a swim without a PFD. If something happens to them, I'm going to feel bad, but no worse than for the people who died accidently in any other way while participating in activities of their choosing.

There were about 4,000 drownings in the US last year. About 500 of them were boating-related. Just think, we could have prevented about 3,500 deaths if we required anyone who was going near the water (beach, pools, etc) to wear a PFD!

Common sense and personal responsibility should be the deciding factor on adult PFD usage. If you're in a higher risk situation (skiing, tubing, racing, high waves, etc) you're stupid (in my opinion) not to wear one. I'm sure in some people's opinion I'm stupid for not wearing one when I'm idling down the bayou. People swim off my boat without PFD's, they go off the rope swings that the only way to get to is by boat without PFD's, etc. We're also swimming in calm lakes and rivers with no currents, might be different in other situations.

Since none of my friends drink, I never have to worry about alchohol while out on the boat. I believe that alchohol is a MUCH bigger contributer to the risk of drowning than not wearing PFD's. Doesn't bother me if people want to drink and get stupid, I just stay away from them. Just be aware that they're still responsible for their actions that affect themselves and others.

Boating, per capita, is one of the safest activities out there. No need to try to scare people away from it. You're in more danger of dying in your car on your way to the ramp (5 vs 17 deaths per 100,000 vehicle registrations). Another way to look at it is 1 death for every 19,000 registered boats. Or 1 death for every 6,250 registered cars. Would you rather be in a boat or a car????

If you really want to make a difference, outlaw drinking on boats (oops, tried that about 90 years ago and it didn't work .....). It is a reported factor in more than 20% of boating fatalities, and suspected as a factor in over 70% (lots of people don't want to report to the police that they were drinking when someone drowned, for some reason ....)

Another thing you can do is get a bigger boat. Just think, if we outlawed boats of less than 21' we could prevent 3/4 of the drownings. See the 2007 USCG Safety Report Executive Summary below:

2007 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
NATIONAL RECREATIONAL BOATING SAFETY PROGRAM
? When comparing 2006 and 2007, the number of deaths dropped from 710 to 685. However, other casualty figures increased: accidents rose from 4967 to 5191, injuries rose from 3474 to 3673, and damages rose from $43,670,424 to $53,106,496.
? Over two-thirds of all fatal boating accident victims drowned, and of those, ninety (90) percent were not wearing a life jacket.
? Only fourteen (14) percent of deaths occurred on vessels where the operator had received boating safety instruction.
? Three out of every four boaters who drowned were using vessels less than 21 feet in length.
? Operator inattention, careless/reckless operation, passenger/skier behavior,
excessive speed, and alcohol use rank as the top five primary contributing factors in accidents.
? Alcohol use is the leading contributing factor in fatal boating accidents; it was listed as the leading factor in 21% of the deaths.
? Sixteen (16) children age 12 and under lost their lives while boating in 2007,
compared to 29 children in 2006 and 21 children in 2005. Half (8) of the children who died in 2007 died from drowning.
? The most common types of vessels involved in reported accidents were open motorboats (44%), personal watercraft (24%), and cabin motorboats (15%). The number of deaths associated with the use of canoes/kayaks increased to 107 in 2007 as compared with 99 in 2006.
? The 12,875,568 vessels registered by the States in 2007 represent a one percent increase from last year when 12,746,126 vessels were registered.

The 2007 USCG Safety Report is available at:

http://www.uscgboating.org/statistics/accident_stats.htm
 

Blue Crabber

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Re: Always wear your life jacket in the water!!!

I am glad to see that this post has people thinking and talking about their own personal observations on the subject.

I agree that wearing a PFD should not be a state law for an adult. In a perfect world every adult should be responsible enough to make that decision. (Sadly I know this is not the case.)

The reason we have that rule about always having a jacket on in the water is because we always boat in tidal water or water with current. I know the water that I boat on better than my passengers do so I require they wear a life jacket in the water. (Just one of a few ways we try to keep everyone safe)

While I can't make boating 100% safe, I can do all in my power to make it as safe and enjoyable as possible. As the captain of the boat, it is my responsibility to do this for my passengers. Most of my passengers don't know enough about the water we boat in to make a responsible, educated decision about wether or not to wear a life jacket. This is why I have this rule. If they don't want to wear a life jacket, then they don't have to come0 out with us. That is just they way it is.

Everyone is entitled to thier own decision on this and I respect that. Hoped that this post would be a good reminder for all of us to be safe while we are boating.

Boat safe and enjoy the summer everyone!
 

Nico2112

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While I can't make boating 100% safe, I can do all in my power to make it as safe and enjoyable as possible. As the captain of the boat, it is my responsibility to do this for my passengers. Most of my passengers don't know enough about the water we boat in to make a responsible, educated decision about wether or not to wear a life jacket. This is why I have this rule.
Exactly:)

Here's what happened to a friend two weekends ago:

We went out boating that sunday, it was a boys day out, no wifes, just me, two friends and our children (6 in total). We enjoyed half morning driving the kids around on a banana. After the kids got bored on the banana, we decided to dip in for a swim. All kids were fitted with their PFDs, as well as myself and one of my friends. The other one was really stubborn about it "I'm a great swimmer, I don't need that kind of sh**" he said.
Before jumping in, I explained the kids about the lake's current and that they should all grab one of the 2 lines I secure to the boat so we don't drift away (I use small floaters on the lines so they are always visible).
So in we went, dads first, kids last. I told my friend (the one that didn't use a PFD) to stay onboard until all of us were in the water. Finally he dove in, swimmed a couple of meters, and was nagging about how we all were sissies for wearing a PFD. He refused to stay close to the line, and I was getting uncomfortable with that. Just then, he started to drift away, a strong current was pulling him away from the boat. He yelled "I just can't swim towards the boat!"; I got on board, tied a line to a throwable cushion and managed to pull him in. All this happened in a minute, really fast.
He got onboard, slapped on a PFD, got into the water again, and this time, grabbed onto one of the lines.

Accidents happen in a matter of seconds. This experience taught my friend a lesson, and made me glad I have my rules.

I agree, this should not be enforced by any law (there aren't any down here anyway); as an adult you should be responsible and smart enough to make the right safe decisions.

Just sharing guys:)
 

Home Cookin'

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Re: Always wear your life jacket in the water!!!

people need to understand that swimmnig ability has little to do with wearing a PFD in a boat. Seldom will you be in the water because you chose to be there. If you'r ein the water after a wreck, swamping, fall-over, you will also have injuries to contend with. You may be in the water a while, and water that is cool and refreshing will kill you in a surprisingly short time.
For these reasons, in addition to wearing a PFD, I installed a swim platform on a large boat, and keep a ladder on the smaller ones (that I can reach from over the side). Think about adding that to your safety protocol.
 

jay_merrill

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Re: Always wear your life jacket in the water!!!

people need to understand that swimmnig ability has little to do with wearing a PFD in a boat. Seldom will you be in the water because you chose to be there. If you'r ein the water after a wreck, swamping, fall-over, you will also have injuries to contend with.


Exactly.
 

mrdancer

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If you don't want to wear your PFD for yourself, at least wear it so that the Emergency Management folks won't have to spend three weeks of taxpayer dollars searching for your body.
 

rjlipscomb

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Now my puppy has a pfd which he puts on before getting in the boat. He doesn't complain and loves to swim and chase ducks. I get good exercise chasing after him. :)
 

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Re: Always wear your life jacket in the water!!!

From Jay_Merrill
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Originally Posted by 45Auto
? Over two-thirds of all fatal boating accident victims drowned, and of those, ninety (90) percent were not wearing a life jacket.

Need I say more?

Please do say more. Can you tell us why you think taking draconian measures which eliminate many activities enjoyed by boaters NOT wearing PFD's (sunbathing, swimming, etc) is worth it to you and your fellow PFD nazis?

The vast majority of drownings are directly related to the stupidity of the person who drowned. If you want to drink on your boat, go out in unsafe conditions, drive unsafely, etc, then by all means ALWAYS wear your PFD. It may rescue you from your own ignorance. But don't try to ruin millions of people's enjoyment of one of the safest recreational activities there is to boost your do-gooder ego. If you're really interested in saving lives, join the New Orleans PD. Twice as many people die from violent crime in New Orleans every year than die in the ENTIRE country from ALL boating drownings.
 
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