Am i asking to much

Cannondale

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Re: Am i asking to much

You rarely if ever get what you've put into it back out of it....unless you got a deal to begin with.

Ex: Bought a 1990 Quantum (built by Bayliner) 16' bass/fishing boat w/a 50hp Force for $950. Seller was desperate and I stumbled upon it and was first to it. This same boat routinely sells in a range of $2000-$2500, so this gave me a little wiggle room. Fortunately, it didn't need much at all to get on the water.

8 months later, it has 3 new seats (Tempress Navistars) at $300, a "new to me" 2004 model Motorguide Pro 46# bow mount trolling motor (bought at an auction for $7.50....it had no base and the pedal's $10 microswitch was bad. Reused the base from the previous Motorguide that was on the boat, replaced switch, and it's doing great!), new stereo and speakers, new deep cycle battery, and a few days of power buffing the gel coat back to its original shine, which was the worst part of the boat, and I'm around break even point.

But don't be like those that try to sell a boat and count every penny spent on maintenance as "upgrades" done to the boat. There's a guy in Atlanta with the same boat as mine who's been trying to sell his for around 4-5 months now. He started out at $3500 and has dropped the price by $1000....now at $2500, and that's still a lot for winter. And while he did replace the carpet and seats, he's also nickle-and-dimeing his price upward because of all he's done to it....new spark plugs, new bearings in the trailer's wheels, changed the lower unit lube, new gas line, bearing buddies, new tires, new battery.......all of which are maintenance items and rarely affect the price upward at all.

And that's the trap you're falling into......everything you've done to it can be considered maintenance or refurbishment, all of which is not going to up your price significantly at all. But if you'd not done the work, you'd be back to asking $1000 or less for it. At least you're going to get some of what you put in back.
 

1fishbone

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Re: Am i asking to much

WOW..... guess im asking to much..

thanks.. well see what i can get out of it this spring maybe.. i dont think ill take less then 3800.. in this area new jersey i havent been able to find a boat for under 6500 that really doesnt need anything.. you guys can say im covering up this or that with paint.. It was cosmetics.. when i bought the boat a year ago it sat outside uncovered in the weather and it was filthy...

I should have put this in bold, italics and underlined

In my area in MAY/JUNE

In your area it will be different!!
 

NYBo

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Re: Am i asking to much

Online NADA values are mis-leading, they don't into account, location, time of year.
Add the motor and trailer according to NADA it's worth;
boat$1,800 (no options), motor $185, trailer $225 = about $2210
Nope. The NADA price includes the trailer and motor in this case. Probably because that's how it was sold new, as a package.
 
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Re: Am i asking to much

if you wanna get the most money wait till spring every ones buyin in spring and they get desprete to get one for the summer
 

1fishbone

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Re: Am i asking to much

Nope. The NADA price includes the trailer and motor in this case. Probably because that's how it was sold new, as a package.

I concur and stand corrected!

But NADA has a running motor is only worth $185?

NADA means nadda to me!
Unless it can WORK for me!
 

NYBo

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But NADA has a running motor is only worth $185?!
At that price, I'll take two!:p

Yeah, NADA is only for rough estimates, with some estimates being rougher than others.
 

25thmustang

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Re: Am i asking to much

There's an older Sea Ray at my club for sale. He's asking $5000. It's been that way for quite a few years. Best offer or not, noone will even give it a chance because the starting price is far too high and I think most would feel bad offering less than half, which is more in line with it's true value.
 

mtrainTurbo

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Re: Am i asking to much

Bayliner included trailers and motors with all of their boats under 22 feet back then, so in my opinion, the value of the motor and trailer is baked into the price.

NADA is used by banks to determine loan value. So it VERY MUCH has something to do with the final value of the boat.

The other question the OP needs to ask is: What other boats are out there and for sale at my price?

To give you an idea, add $1,000 to your asking price, and you'd have been able to buy my 1986 24 foot Bayliner bowrider with a 5.7L Volvo. Kind of makes a 16 foot Trophy at that price look a little ridiculous.

And don't listen to people saying "Bayliner has a bad rep". You clearly didn't pay that much for the boat to begin with.

The boat is a $2500 boat all day long in showroom condition, not a penny more.
 

25thmustang

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Re: Am i asking to much

Add $1500 to his price and you coulda bought my 1987 29' boat. :)
 

cbavier

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Re: Am i asking to much

Nope. The NADA price includes the trailer and motor in this case. Probably because that's how it was sold new, as a package.

NADA in Mich for that boat is $1805 includes trailer & Motor in Ave Condition. The Boat new only cost $9300 including the Motor and trailer
 
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