Another newbie, another Starcraft project!

ramsfansam

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Hi everyone!

First, let me apologize for my lack of nautical terminology.

My son and I just bought a '69 Starcraft SS V-16, trailer, and a '75 Johnson 115 HP motor, Minn Kota trolling motor with foot control....all for $200. We were told the boat was last in the water 3 or 4 years ago, and at that time the motor was running fine, the boat took on a small amount of water, and it was probably still ready to go fishing.

Nope. Not with rotted plywood, a motor that likely needs a new impeller, and a leak. I can't swim, so before I go out, this thing will be in great condition. Besides, we want to take off that oversized motor and put something sensible on it. We're planning on cleaning up the motor, painting it, making sure it runs really good, then selling it. We're hoping to get enough out of it to buy a used 40 HP motor and still have some cash to put towards the boat.

We've spent the past few days stripping the thing down to the bare hull. We decided to wash down the inside of the hull to remove the debris, and sure enough...

There's a leak. On the outside of the hull, right where the keel begins to sweep upwards, it looks like the boat might have been run into a gravel bar or tree and poorly repaired with bondo or something. The rib inside the hull directly above this point is split dead center, looks like a crack, but I'm not sure. Someone used some sort of compound to try and patch it, but it likely isn't gluvit since it leaks. The water from inside the hull is leaking out underneath the keel channel, and also running about a foot towards the stern and leaking out through a small hole in the channel.

My question is this: Will welding this area up be the best repair, or should we do something else? Also, after the repair, how can we fill the dents?

We're kind of stuck with no local marine specialists, as Bass Pro Shops has pretty much run all of the local places down to the Tablerock Lake area, and I am planning on spending the time while we are doing the boat repair to do some trailer improvements and painting. That pretty much removes the chance of towing it down there for repair, and this time of year, we'd have to wait several months to get the boat back. We're wanting to stick fairly close to our schedule we have planned, as we're both on vacation this week, after this, it's going to be just a couple of days each week working time. Since this is literally a backyard project, we need to hit a stopping point before we have to put the boat in storage. Therefore, we need some advice!
 

Bob_VT

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Re: Another newbie, another Starcraft project!

Welcome to iboats!

Hopefully I can help.....

You asked "There's a leak. On the outside of the hull, right where the keel begins to sweep upwards, it looks like the boat might have been run into a gravel bar or tree and poorly repaired with bondo or something. The rib inside the hull directly above this point is split dead center, looks like a crack, but I'm not sure. Someone used some sort of compound to try and patch it, but it likely isn't gluvit since it leaks. The water from inside the hull is leaking out underneath the keel channel, and also running about a foot towards the stern and leaking out through a small hole in the channel."

Yes that is a common point of leaks and comes from keel damage. ANY cracks that you find would be best welded...... to fill in a major dent or reshape an area I would use PC 11. Once you have the cracks welded, dents filled and all rivets checked (re-buck the loose ones and replace the missing ones) THEN ;) I would give the boat a Gluvit treatment from the inside.

We are addicted to Starcrafts here and here is a link to various (not all!) restorations http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=385090 and I am sure you will find some inspiration/ideas in those.

As far as the motor ...... it will make excellent trading material for a 70 hp which is the ideal motor for that hull.

Yes, I spent many years at FLW and I know that Bass Pro has the control....... BTW I think Springfield is a nice city.

Once again welcome Do not hesitate to ask questions......
If you want to post photos check the top posts in this area http://forums.iboats.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32
 

ramsfansam

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Re: Another newbie, another Starcraft project!

I'll get the photos up after the ol' lady finishes her homework, since she's using the laptop and that's where the pics are.

I took a drill-mounted brass wire wheel brush to the area, found a couple of loose rivets and a ton of bondo. I know that smell...it sticks with you. I'm going to try to find the PC11 around locally, I hope. My son just went after a couple of new tires for the trailer so we can tow the boat down to the welding shop. While it's being looked at, I'm going to have the guy give me a price on getting the tongue extended. It seems a couple of feet short to me, and on some of those lake roads, I think we'd have a turning issue. I'm also going to replace the wheel bearings, whether they need it or not. I have a feeling that I'm going to be getting rid of those little 4.80-12 tires and wheels rather quickly. Also need to replace all the rollers and brace the winch up some more.
 

ramsfansam

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Re: Another newbie, another Starcraft project!

OK, gonna try to upload a few pics now...one shows the spot of the damage well.

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CheapboatKev

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Re: Another newbie, another Starcraft project!

great deal! welcome to the insanity of starcraft!
 

ramsfansam

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Re: Another newbie, another Starcraft project!

Well, I took the boat down to a welding shop yesterday. Just so happens that the guy is in the process of rebuilding his own aluminum v-hull. He pointed out some rivets I didn't see that were loose, showed me how to reseat them, and even told me where to buy some caulk to reseal the pieces that had come loose. He said as soon as I get the rivets reseated, bring the boat back and he will be more than happy to weld the cracked rib for $15.00. I've used this old hillbilly before, he does beautiful work. In fact, he was making a custom aluminum Hoveround setup for a truck when I drove up. Looked great.

My son's friend gave him some rivets that came from the Tracker plant. There's a few spots where someone used sheet metal screws in the hull, so we're going to replace those. We also need a few to reattach the front deck supports to the hull, so I'm glad he picked them up.

Today, if the rain holds off, that is, we're going to try to pull the motor. We weren't looking forward to lifting up 300+ pounds of motor, so I found a tree out back that has a big branch about 8' off the ground. All I need to do is back that boat up, hook up my come along, and drop it right on the stand we made, then attach the stand to a 2-wheeler so we can roll it around on my gravel driveway.

Progress is slow, cash isn't really available at the moment to sink into this thing the way we want to, but that just means we can take our time and do the job the right way. At least until next payday....:)
 

Huron Angler

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Re: Another newbie, another Starcraft project!

I've been working on the same hull and the 16' SS is a nice project boat. Many items are easily rebuilt and they are very versatile rigs.

Hopefully you can get that 115 running to sell it, I'd try to get at least a 60hp for it so you can plane out even if the boat is heavily laden.

Nice rig, good luck and feel free to ask questions, folks like to help out fellow Starcrafters here.:)

Welcome to the armada!
 
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