Another pitbull attack

[beerrun]

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Nope, Its an american bulldog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bulldog
nope, pit bulls jaws are not muscularly attatched different an they're no stronger. Their teeth are not sharper.http://www.realpitbull.com/myths.html
As QC said, yes they were bred to fight. That didnt make them mean. What it did was made them strong. People have to train them to be mean.They were also bred for gameness, a willingness to complete a task even under penalty of death or serious injury.
IMO, alot of the great pit bull debate is a lack of peoples willingness to educate themselves. This debate could go on forever BTW.

 

[BoatBuoy]

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"Bulldog" covers several breeds, but is usually applied to the English Bulldog. I am aware of no breed called an "American Bulldog", but suspect that the dog was and American Bull Terrier, an extremely powerful animal.

FYI: American Bulldog, weight range 75-125lbs. for males, 20"-28" in height.
From Wikipedia: "The American Bulldog is a breed of working dog developed for catching livestock and for protecting property. Though larger in size, they are the closest surviving relative of the Old English Bulldog because they were not altered to as great an extent while in Colonial America as their European cousins. There are generally considered to be two types of American Bulldog, the Johnson type and the Scott type, named after the breeders who were influential in developing them, John D. Johnson and Allen Scott. "

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Johnson was the sole reason for the AB today.
He is the one that brought them back from near extinction after WWll.

 

[oddjob]

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Meet Duke!

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During said that the dog seemed friendly and would jump on and lick visitors to the home. The family adopted the dog about a year ago. During contends the bulldog may have become jealous when he attacked because Tori was playing with other dogs the family was keeping temporarily. unquote

Lots of no-nos going on in this story...

 

[JB]

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Well, my error.

I would have identified those American Bulldogs as pit bulls. I have known a few and found them no more likely to misbehave than any other breed and more dependable than many popular lap dogs.

My dogs have always been mongrels, hunting or herding dogs. I have loved my ugliest mongrels the most.

 

[mscher]

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"Bull" dogs and especially pit bulls, no matter how firendly, are ticking time bombs, just waiting to go off, IMO. They have attacking and killing, bred into the breed for many years.

Once at some auto races (1980's Mid Ohio, before it turned corporate), we met a group that had a very friendly pitbull chained to the ground. All afternoon people (strangers) petted and pined over this very friendly dog.

After the races, two cops came nearby mounted on horses. One look and this friendly dog went completely berserk, ripping the chain holder out of the ground and headed directly towards one of the horse's throats.

The horse panicked and threw the officer, tearing off at full gallop, through crowds of people, the dog right there, lunging at the horse's throat.

The second mounted officer galloped next to the pitbull while it was attacking the first horse, pounding at it with his nightstick. Didn't phase the dog a bit.

The last we saw the dog and the horses was about 150 yards away, full gallop, the pitbull still focused on the horse's throat. Second officer swinging away.

The owner said that the dog had never seen a horse or cow in it's life.

Just doin it's job.

 

[beerrun]

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Meet Duke! ...

Duke is really cute. Love those ears. Meet Orion...He sits, stays until I tell him he can party on, does not beg for food, heels, lays down, when I tell him all the way down he puts his chin right on the floor, high fives, flying kisses, finds the cat when I dont know where she is, does not jump on guests, If I tell him watch the truck he will stay right next to it till I tell him OK. I am in the process of teaching him stop drop and roll. He does what we call fugitive dog, when a police car or ambulance goes by with the siren on , I say "what did you do?" and he hides behind the couch. I have never had a smarter dog. I am still careful around strangers and guests not because I think he would do anything just because its the responsible thing to do. Ya never know...with any dog.

 

[oddjob]

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The pic of Orion guarding the truck is priceless..

Dogs are great as long as they stay out of the hands of ill-responsible animal abusers and serial killers ( cats included).

BTW (For all concerned) killing other dogs or baited animals has been bred into this breed for sure. At the same time aggression towards humans has been bred out. For those of you who dont know the difference between a bull dog and a bull terrier try to understand that a dog that shows aggression towards his master or family etc. generaly is put down.

 

[scrat]

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I live in a very rural area which is a blessing in a way. I don't like shooting dogs. I have dogs and love them but have had to shoot at least 4 in the past 2 years. 2 of these were pits that were killing my goats - caught in the act. The other two were poor pitiful creatures that some jerks dropped off in front of my house because the 'nice farmers will take care of them'. I just wish I could've got those owners too!. The first two were (past tense) owned by a neighbor who moved into the same area, purchased 2 acres and released their dogs to roam thinking that that they had plenty of land for that.

 

[1730V]

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Pitbulls or no pitbulls, it seems that adults are more dangerous. I read a story about another cooked baby in Phoenix the otherday. No mention here. Another, so called parent left the child in the car while she went to work at Hooters. That in itself says a lot.

A 17 month old left in a car seat to bake for seven hours while "mommy" did what she does. It seems she "forgot" since she had been out of the "mommy groove" for a while. I can think of a punishment for her. It involves a car, closed windows and August in Phoenix.

 

[gonefishie]

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My next door neighbor have this extremely aggressive full grown mut that seemed to have some Australian Shephard mix in him. He's chained to the tree in the middle his front yard, the chain is long enough for him to goes to the edge of my driveway. He barks constantly at anything and everything. This dog want to attack me and my family everytime he see us. He would charges at my truck when I'm pulling out of the driveway. He's so aggressive and stupid that every morning he would run full speed at my truck only to be yank backward by the chain and drop to the ground. I have told my neighbor that the day my two year old get bit by that dog is the day he's gonna die. I thought about shooting that mofo all the time.

 

[oddjob]

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I dont blame anyone for shooting a dog roaming their property. My father shot my dog when I was 8 for chasing our cattle. He did use bird shot from a good distance and Tony lived to stop chasing cattle.

 

[MikDee]

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What I know, and what I'm getting out of this, is apparently pit bulls, can't distinguish between animals, & little kids, when they attack for no reason, I think jealousy maybe involved, and because they don't see much of a threat here as from their master. A good friend of mine had a chocolate lab, and his son got a pit bull, both were good dogs, and lived under the same roof with a big orange tabby for a few yrs, the tabby used to always taunt the pit bull, one day, out of the blue, the pit bull snapped and attacked the lab, and almost killed it, luckily my friend was there at the time, and he couldn't get the pit bull to release it's grip on the lab, until he grabbed his nose so it couldn't breathe, then off he went to the vet, he almost lost the lab because she was bleeding so bad. I personally would not trust a pit bull around kids, & other pets. I think pent up angst, & jealousy was involved here.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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This is Butch, my 5 month old the 26th.
For his birthday, he gets to go to the vet to get snipped.
He's mad and pouting cause mommy has the leash on him.

Like I said, he was near death with parvo and anyone that knows parvo knows it's a killer of puppies.
The only thing you can do other than spending big bucks at the vets, and I don't advise anyone doing this, is give them a tablespoon full of pure bleach.
It will kill the parvo cause that is the only thing known that will.
He was all bones and could not stand he was so bad and about 3 days after the bleach, he came out of his cage and drank some water and took 2 or 3 bites of his food and I knew he was better and it's been all uphill from there.
Now he is back 100% and won't get the parvo again.

 

[Haut Medoc]

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It would be about my last choice for a pet......​

 

[beerrun]

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What a cutie! and very lucky to have you to save him. I would think that the bleach would have killed him. Werent you scared giving him bleach when he was already so sick?I would have been at the vets office spending a bundle. Its hard to watch them pout and not give in but he'll get used to that leash. Will you need to muzzle him where you live? That was the worst thing with Orion as far as training and we are still working on it. He just hates it. Its nice to see another rescued, understood pit in a loving home. Good luck with him.

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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No muzzle here.
He was as close to dead as he could have been and still breathing.
I learned the bleach trick from and old coon hunter.
He said to use it if I wanted to save the dog.
I lost a littler of rotts once.
Thought I would do the right thing and take them to the vet and have their tales cut and checked out good.
1 week later they were all dead from parvo.
Vet had an infected dog in the waiting room and never told anyone.
Needless to say, I sued her for $1500, the costs of the pups if I had got to sell them.
I won and she is out of business.

So, the bleach was it if he was going to survive.
Now, I do all the shots and tale cutting myself.

 

[beerrun]

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Thats frightening. I trust my vets office so much, it awful to think that a vet would do that. You do the tail thing yourself?!! I am way too squeamish. Could never do it. I have never had to deal with Parvo in a dog but I have heard that its miserable. Where did you get Butch that he was in such bad shape?

 

[SpinnerBait_Nut]

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Thats frightening. I trust my vets office so much, it awful to think that a vet would do that. You do the tail thing yourself?!! I am way too squeamish. Could never do it. I have never had to deal with Parvo in a dog but I have heard that its miserable. Where did you get Butch that he was in such bad shape?

I had the mommy dog here at my place cause the daughter was not home enough to watch her when she got close to having them.
I picked Butch out of the littler and kept him here while she took mommy and the rest of the pups home with her.
I never said anything but I think she brought it in on him.
What stumped me was that he did not have the normal signs of parvo, no diarrhea or such.
He would vomit all his food and water up and I kept feeding him and giving him water and it was not staying down and he got really dehydrated and then I knew what was up and after some research found out he had the stomach type of parvo and not the intestine type.
Make a long story short, I shot water under his skin to get some water back in his body and gave him the bleach.
He threw a part of it up but kept enough down to help cause like I said, 3 days or so later he was coming out of it.
I fed him baby food for a week so his stomach could heal and then slowly introduced him to regular food and he is now 100% all puppy again.

Oh yea, the tail cutting is a breeze.
Use dog toe nail clippers and slide the tail up in there to about a 1/2 inch from the butt and clip real fast. Used 25# Big Game line to sew them up and in about 2 weeks, cut it out and they are good to go.

 

[QC]

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Oh yea, the tail cutting is a breeze.
Use dog toe nail clippers and slide the tail up in there to about a 1/2 inch from the butt and clip real fast. Used 25# Big Game line to sew them up and in about 2 weeks, cut it out and they are good to go.

I did that to my lab, Bear, by accident, although I let him keep half . . . I was sending him out the side Garage door and he was trotting through. The wind was really howling and when I let go of the door, it slammed so fast that it caught him going through. There was this little tuft of tail on the gargae side and I quickly opened the door back up, but there was no dog on the other side He was slinking down the side of the house trying to figure out why I did that to him Major bummer. He's the best ever and I cut his tail off. Definitely an accident, but he still looks at me kinda funny every time I open a door for him. Weird thing is that he was afraid of doors before I did it . . . I feel guilty everytime we go in and out. Kinda sucks.