Another thread about painting aluminum!

Bob_VT

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Re: Another thread about painting aluminum!

If you apply gluvit to the outside of the hull....... just make sure it is not directly exposed to the sun. Many of the river people with drift boats apply it to the bottom.

When it's dry it looks like yellow/clear thick coating. It is recommended that it be painted if exposed to the sun.

How do you plan on mounting the pedestals? Where is the epoxy you are trying to clean and remove?
 

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I'm using 7" econo-pedestals from wise or action(BPS or Cabela's) directly on the wood bench seats(10") giving me 17+" height all together..(swivels and seat bottom should give me 2 more inches)

The epoxy is mostly in the center of the v, inside of hull, and also where the transom meets the walls on either side...the seams running down the sides are pretty clean....
 

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Just a note from experience........ once you closer.... get the boat in the water and just play with the height of the pedestals to see how it has an effect on stability.

And ;) keep your eyes open and visit your local town garage for old no parking signs which are usually aluminum...... use them to help spread the pedestal load on the wood.

The most notorious spots for leaks were the bow area where the V from the front of the hull starts to meet the flat area and the seams up front on both sides where the hull meets the sides. If the epoxy is not interfering and you are going to paint just cover it with paint. No one will notice...... just do not drive yourself nuts over it :)
 

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Re: Another thread about painting aluminum!

That EZ guy is a hack and has no idea what he's doing so I wouldn't use his thread for any ideas. :p

This is what the Gluvit looks like applied to the inside of my hull:
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It's interesting stuff. I mixed up the whole batch at once. It went on a little bit thick and got thicker towards the end as it started to kick. However I came back a couple hours later to check on it and it clearly had thinned out a bunch and spread out and ran. Then after about 24-48 hours it was hard. So I really think it does a good job of flowing into potential leaks.
 

PaulyV

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Now ya tell me!! after I used all your ideas for mine..I hope I'm safe:D
 

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Here's a recounting of my first experience with Gluvit from another thread I posted:


Coverage & working time:

The 1 Qt. size (2 lb.) was more than enough to do all the seams and rivets on a 15' Starcraft runabout. At 72 degrees outside, the pot life was about 55 minutes until it got too thick to spread and started clumping.

Mixing:

I actually only mixed half of it up and I'm glad I did that; I had about an ounce or so left over at the end. To mix half by weight, I put a mixing container on a digital postal scale, then turned it on to zero it. I poured 14.4 oz of the resin into the container; then repeated the process for the hardener (catalyst), pouring 2 oz. in a smaller container (zeroed the same way). Then I mixed & stirred it for 4 minutes per directions.

Working time:

I didn't know how much time I'd have when I started out, so I did all the seams first and then went back and dabbed it on individual rivets. After about 40 minutes I noticed that the thickening rate seemed to quicken. It actually was easier to see it filling in the seams when it got thicker, so I went back over them to use up most of what was left.

Using only half allows for mixing the second half later and putting on a second coat, which Gluvit recommends for "optimum" performance.

To sum it up, my advice is to follow the mixing directions carefully, and work fast!!

Like EZ said above, it creeps more than you might expect, and as it's clear when you are applying it, it's hard to see exactly where it's going. Look at my mess:

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Re: Another thread about painting aluminum!

Seems like all youz guys didn't have to tilt your hulls very much because you were just sealing the floor.....How important is gravity in the process? It would make my job much easier if didn't have to tilt 5 times....2 would be much more convenient....
 

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Seems like all youz guys didn't have to tilt your hulls very much because you were just sealing the floor.....How important is gravity in the process? It would make my job much easier if didn't have to tilt 5 times....2 would be much more convenient....

I didn't tilt mine at all. I only did up to the water line, except up under the deck, I did all the way up the seems there. I haven't put on my second coat yet. Gluvit mixed has the consistency of maple syrup.
 

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Bob VT
Thanks for the tip on no parking signs.....for now I'm reusing the old wood benches so I see them as expendable....but I will use big washers when I bolt the seats on...as far as stability is concerned.....I don't have any! That's why I'm adding pedestals.....I can cast standing up in the back but it's tough on the old core muscles when fishing all day.....so I'll cast from my seat instead. I'm only adding 7 inches....should be a great deal more stable than when I'm standing....I'm 6'4" tall!!!!

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It's the little one...the base is pretty big I think..proportionately


Here's my thoughts on tipping the boat as of today, I'll raise the bow till the boats on a 45 or so, hit the transom and the top side of all the ribs, then raise the back of the hull and do the v in front and the other side of all the ribs. Then I'll lay it flat for the remaining work on the floor(rivets in the ribs and rivets for the keel). The 2 sides Ill just do with whatever I have left on the previous "tilts". Most of the rivets are above the waterline there anyway......How about it?
 

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I still haven't heard any opinions on using a bulkhead fitting to create a drain for my little tin can.......it might eventually leak but repair should be really simple...

I'd also like to hear from someone who used gluvit years ago....tell me how it has held up!!!
 

xltom

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Re: Another thread about painting aluminum!

BUMP! Wow this forum gets alot of action!!!
 
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