any grass experts?

fishingman220

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So, i bought my house back in nov of 2008, well when i bought the house it was not occupied for about 8 months and no one had cut the grass, it looked like a hay field. well i am trying to get it back to a good looking yard. it is full of clover, little white flowers, crab grass, and TONS of dandielions. so what is the best thing to try to bring it back? there is not much grass, mainly weeds. the only thing i can think of is lime it, airate it towards the fall, lime seed and fetilize, and stay on schuedual for scotts 5 per year turfbuilders. any ideas?
 

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Re: any grass experts?

I had a similar situation. I paid someone to do the front yard and then did the back myself. Went over the whole thing with roundup to kill everything. 6 weeks later aerated, and added an inch of topsoil. Then added lime, seed and fertilizer. Then just make sure it gets an inch of water a week.

I did the front several years ago in March. Was just a little early since we didn't have a constant ground temp above 50. The back was done in September 2 years ago. Both front and back are great now. Get an occasional dandilion and some clover but use a spot herbicide on those. Pre-emergent in the spring does a good job on crabgrass and you pull the others by hand.

Since I live in the northwest, I used a fescue mixture. Use whatever seems to work best in your part of the country. It's getting a little late to be starting for this year so you may want to wait until fall.
 

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Re: any grass experts?

So, i bought my house back in nov of 2008, well when i bought the house it was not occupied for about 8 months and no one had cut the grass, it looked like a hay field. well i am trying to get it back to a good looking yard. it is full of clover, little white flowers, crab grass, and TONS of dandielions. so what is the best thing to try to bring it back? there is not much grass, mainly weeds. the only thing i can think of is lime it, airate it towards the fall, lime seed and fetilize, and stay on schuedual for scotts 5 per year turfbuilders. any ideas?

Do not add lime without checking pH of your soil first.
Been there, done that, and didn't even get a T-shirt! :mad:
 

fishingman220

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Re: any grass experts?

i have heard alot of people around here say the soil is so acidic that it doesnt hurt a thing to lime once a month. i was thinking around the same thing, i was going to kill off with roundup, and then use a tiller on the tractor, then harly rake it, and seed fetilizer lime and water
 

Flyvet

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Re: any grass experts?

It would help to know where you are located. I'm in the piedmont (middle) of NC and I am a big fan of warm season grasses like zoysia instead of cool season like fescue. I'm also in the minority in this area.
 

Flyvet

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Your area is a little colder than mine but maybe not enough difference to matter. Most everybody around here has fescue because it being a cool season grass it stays somewhat green in the winter. But I have had fescue and it is a continual maintenance crop. I really like warm season grass particularly zoysia. I have had hybrid bermuda (not common bermuda) but it requires much more feeding, mowing, and more sun than zoysia. If you get zoysia, you want the variety Emerald. It is finer leaved and more shade tolerant than the other varieties. It spreads slowly so is not invasive, grows slowly so only needs mowing once a week at the most at the height of growing season, forms a thick mat like a golf course fairway, is tough and takes a lot of traffic. I have had no disease, and have a fair amount of shade. The disadvantage is that it is more expensive initially because it ideally should be sodded. You can sprig it but it takes a long time to establish. The fact that it goes dormant in the winter and is brown, in my opinion is not a disadvantage. Winter is winter, the trees are leafless, it is cold and grass should not be green. And it shortens the mowing season. I am presently down in the Keys doing a little tarpon fishing, I'll try to get some photos and post when I get back.
 

180shabah

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flyvet - I have seen zoysia advertised for years (plugs) but have never know anybody who has used it. Was yours a plug or sod base?
 

204 Escape

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Maybe you could go to your county extension office for advice for your area.
 

Flyvet

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Just went out and took some photos. My grass usually greeens up sometime in April, it is a little later this year with the severe winter we all had. I sodded mine which is by far the best way because you don't have to fight any weeds coming up and don't have to wait a year or two to fill in. When I first established my lawn 20 years ago I had it delivered from Florence, SC area on a semi with forklift on it, essentially wholesale. I built another area about 10 years ago and bought it from a company called SuperSod. They are in several cities and probably grow it in the same area of SC. It definitely is more expensive than other options but once you do it there is much less maintenance expense and labor. As you can see in the pictures I have a fair amount of shade and it still does ok. The last photo is where it is dying out due to the Magnolia tree that has grown to huge size and completely shaded that spot. As I said, if you get some, ask for Emerald variety or look at it compared to other varieties.
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180shabah

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My biggest concern is draught tolerance, I only have one small area of heavy shade. Thanks for the pics.
 
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