Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

[10point]

Looking at some used motors. One is 2000 9.9 Johonson. Since they have quit making these would it be better to stay away from these?

 

[F_R]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

It's a funny world. Well actually, it ain't funny. Look how many cars have bit the dust in the last year or two. As for the Johnson, I suppose it depends on the future success or failure of the parent company, BRP. They are still there.

 

[bob johnson]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

I think there will be parts available for a long time...because the market is there, and it is huge...if they cant make money...either they are dumb, or they dont charge enough...or both...but someone will step in and sell the parts....

it is possible a new motor company cant make it...but the parts end should always be viable, because there is less competition...Yamaha, mercury and Honda dont make Johnson parts!!!!!!!!!!!

and their parts dont fit on a 2000 johnson 9.9!!


but dont be affraid to mention your worries when negotiating!!!!!!!!!!

bob

 

[jtexas]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

My evinrude turned 30 last year, and just this year I've noticed "NLA" starting to appear on the parts lists (nothing I've needed yet).

Luckily they built thousands and thousands of motors, most of which are still in service, creating big demand for parts. And, providing used parts to replace parts they don't make. BRP and at least 2 aftermarket suppliers are supporting these machines.

I don't see it as a reason to avoid johnnyrudes. I'm kinda biased though, you know how people get partial to one brand or another, for me it's Ford, Motorguide and Evinrude.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

There's better parts support for old Johnsons than there is for old Mercurys. Figure that one out.

 

[wilde1j]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

Agree, in spades ^^^^

Mercury has always discontinued parts way sooner than OMC/BRP. This was true 40 years ago and still is true today.

 

[d.boat]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

Added to the above, I don't know the details of when it ended, but until very recently, carb'd 2 strokes were made by Johnson and Evinrude and were virtually (actually?) identical. The Evinrude name isn't going away, so I really doubt BRP won't stop supporting old 'Rudes and therefore old Johnsons.

One thing I wonder: Since it was the Evinrude Ficht debacle that lead to OMC going t!ts up, why, when BRP bought the company and came out with the new, improved DI technology, didn't they use the Johnson name and deep six the Evinrude name to get rid of the bad associations? Plus, at the time, I think Johnson had pretty good reputation because of it's successful 4 stroke line up?

 

[Chris1956]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

Aren't manufacturers required to make parts for major products for 20 years? It seems to me that is a law.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

when BRP bought the company and came out with the new, improved DI technology, didn't they use the Johnson name and deep six the Evinrude name to get rid of the bad associations?

This is simple, Evinrude is a way cooler name

 

[F_R]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

Aren't manufacturers required to make parts for major products for 20 years? It seems to me that is a law.

I heard it was seven. But unless you can show me the law, it is an old wive's tale. Bankrupt and closed down factories don't make parts.

Oh, and by the way, I tried to get some heater parts for a Ford pickup that was one year old. They were no longer available.

 

[wilde1j]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

Aren't manufacturers required to make parts for major products for 20 years? It seems to me that is a law.

I don't think so. I worked for thirty years for a manufacturer and they stopped making parts when it was no longer economic. There was never a mention of any laws requiring manufacture for any time period. Occasionally a manufacturer may make parts longer than economic for a variety of other reasons as well. Often, if a manufacturer stops making parts because it's no longer economic (read profitable), it may make sense for others to make the same parts because their costs and volume needs differ. Typically, patent protection is gone, so the only impediment is economic viability.

The company I worked for terminated some products because of poor sales/profitability and discontinued support parts as well. In most cases, there was a complete new replacement product that was entirely different from a component perspective.

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

Hell yes. If you have a 10 year old motor, you better scrap it. Parts will no longer be available. Set it by the curb and pay the scrap dealor to haul it away. It's best to belly up and spend $3,000+ on a new one, so you can bring it in every 6 weeks and have it tuned up. That might run you about another $96.00 an hour for a service tech to go through it. While you're at it, let them spend the time to see that your boat is up to parr.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

BRP still makes many common parts for 50- 60 year old Johnson and Evinrude motors to keep them running.

Your 9.9-15 hp design was produced for almost 30 years (since 1974) so parts will be available for a long time to come.

 

[TN-25]

Re: Any risk of parts going away for Johnson?

I remember when Johnson & Evinrude snowmobiles were in their final year of production. The manufacturer stated that it was the final year they were making sleds (1976) but at that time they guaranteed parts availability for 10 years into the future. As far as I know there was and is no legal requirement for them to do so.

I have heard that some of the 4-stroke 9.9s near the turn of the millenium are not well supported for parts, however most of the 4-strokes up to the end were Suzukis and I think the parts are still readilly available through BRP etc.

There is always a risk that parts will be NLA, but BRP is a business. If it is economically viable and there is sufficient demand (or stock) then those parts will likely stick around. The thing is, the old dies may have been scrapped long ago and when the stock on a part is gone, it is gone.

Never underestimate the overreaching of the government either. Here in Ontario the government made it illegal to sell repair parts for my old home a/c unit since they want to decomission any older systems that use the old freon.