Anyone ever live in Japan

ilmostro99

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It's looking more and more like I will be living in Japan within the next 2 months. My wife may be getting a job with DOD at Camp Zama about 40 miles south of Tokyo. Just wondering if anybody has ever lived in Japan or been to the area? How was it? What should I expect? I've spent some time overseas before, but only to Europe. I've never been to Japan. Just feeling a little anxious and nervous (but in a good way), and trying to get all info I can.
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Erik
 

oddjob

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I lived a hour north of Nagasaki and I loved it. You may get some culture shock but it was all very interesting over there. I never cared to be in a big city but the streets are clean in more was than one over there. Another thing I liked was dinning out and trying different foods beer and saki. When you enter a formal resterant your waiter will offer you a Hot steaming towel. Feel free to wipe your face and hands with it.
 

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I only visited Japan and that was 50 years ago. These are the things that struck me then.

Courtesy. In the many months of one or two week visits I never heard a Japanese being rude.

Cleanliness. The bath is a religion. No shoes indoors. No dust or dirt anywhere. They even sweep the dirt in their many beautiful gardens.

Industry. A work ethic seems to be in their genes and personal responsibility is automatic.

If these things haven't changed it will be a bit like wonderland. It was a real culture shock for me after years of propaganda during WWII.
 

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We had a member here that was there most of the time he posted . . . If I can think of his screename I'll post it. I've been a few times and it is a lot of fun because it is soooo different.

You should rent Lost in Translation if you haven't seen it. Weird movie, but the surreal funk that the main character (Bill Murray) is in was very much the fish out of water feeling I got while there. Plus it's got Scarlett Johanssen in it, so it's not a total loss if you hate it . . . ;)
 

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I started first grade in a military school south of Tokyo. My Dad was stationed there from 1953 to 1955. Like JB, I remember to this day how cordial and courteous the people were. Also, my Dad and I ate a lot at the outdoor markets. Had my first sushi, octopus, when I was eight!

Don't go anywhere near a pachinko (sp?) parlor. Funny ball dropping machines that make all this racket and you exchange your handful of balls for a candy bar.:p (Did that sound right??)

I have vowed to return, and who knows, I may make it. The closest I have gotten was Hawaii during the war, 1968-1970.

As with all my other travels through Central, South America and the Caribbean basin as a service technician for over twenty years, I went in with an open mind a good disposition and expected not to eat at McDonalds! :)

And don't forget...Domo arigato...
 

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I started first grade in a military school south of Tokyo. My Dad was stationed there from 1953 to 1955. Like JB, I remember to this day how cordial and courteous the people were. Also, my Dad and I ate a lot at the outdoor markets. Had my first sushi, octopus, when I was eight!

Don't go anywhere near a pachinko (sp?) parlor. Funny ball dropping machines that make all this racket and you exchange your handful of balls for a candy bar.:p (Did that sound right??)

I have vowed to return, and who knows, I may make it. The closest I have gotten was Hawaii during the war, 1968-1970.

As with all my other travels through Central, South America and the Caribbean basin as a service technician for over twenty years, I went in with an open mind a good disposition and expected not to eat at McDonalds! :)

And don't forget...Domo arigato...


Speaking of Mcdonalds....the service and quality of the the american fast food resterants over there are second to none .
 

OldePharte

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You will need to toss a lot of your American attitudes aside and go with the flow. Absolutely gorgeous countrysides to get in touch with your zen side.

I would guess that housing may be smaller than you are used to. Learn the local customs and you should have no problems.

Big cities there are just as crowded, if not more so, than here. You should be able to take the trains just about anywhere you want to go.
 

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Was there in early 70s. Be sure and climb Mt. Fugi. I got my stick not once but twice. I was a doc with the First Marine Brigade. I climbed with a bunch of my fellow grunts. After i got back we got a call that a Marine had broken his leg. Yep i had to do it a second time. Its a good four hour climb at a slow pace. It was having to stretcher him out was a chore.

triumprick..i was at Kaneohe Bay when we came back from in country in 1970. Stationed in Hawaii for two years. Shaka Bra..........
 

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Shaka brah to you my man. Ain't no haole here, bro...I was a transplanted Florida boy and fit right in with the north shore crowd.
Loved kaneoe...lobster capital of Hawaii. They would just lay in bunches up under all the mushroom coral 1/4 mile off the beach.
Just loved the place....would come off a mid watch, raise mamma from bed and down to the beach we went. Finally crash after dinner, sleep a few and back for the second mid.

Remember Hotel street??!!:D

As the salty ol Chief told us as we landed..."Boys, you might be a little lonely. But if you go down there and find a cutie Philapina make sure you check out the plumbing before ya take her home....." Boys will be girls...:D:D:p
 

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I would see the after effects from a night on Hotel Street. About 14 days later they would come to sick call and i would greet them with a million units of pen. Did you ever go to the crater festival? They would shut down the main drag on new years eve and we would party til the sun came up. Then climb the crater to see a concert. Santana and Buddy Miles,and a few other folks played for the next ten hours. Don't remember to much i am afraid. I do remember it was a little smokey and a few fifths of Jim bean kinda set the mood.

Tripler Army Hospital was painted in pink if ya remember. Nice thing about Hawaii is that new tourists(fresh Stock) arrived every couple weeks. Use to take them to Sunset beach and the Blow Hole. Yes there is one for all the mods out there. Would erupt every hour. For some reason i had better stop right here....

Thanks for the memories triumphrick
 

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I spend a week or so in Japan about 3 times a year. Immaculately clean, very respectful people, very helpful people that will go out of their way to assist. The beer is good as is the saki. I stay in some really nice hotels but find the rooms smaller. Food is generally fine. Try the Yakatori restaurants. They just love karaoke and music bars which are extremely plentiful over there. Countryside is amazing and any small patch of flat land that is available you will find rice growing. Their rail system is amazing. You can get just about anywhere on it. The shinkansen (bullet trains) are spectaculatr but mind your ears when they go into a tunnel through a mountain at 300 kilometres per hour!!
I dont know if I could live there long term and that is the way I feel about South Korea as well but to visit for a week or so is always an adventure.
 

gonfishn

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ilmostro99..sorry didn't mean to steal your thunder..Respect their culture and they will respect yours. i think they drive on the wrong side to if memory serves me right. Their temples are an awesome sight.
 

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i think they drive on the wrong side to if memory serves me right.

Maybe we drive on the wrong side!!!!


Better yet, we all drive in the right side, just a different side in the other country.
 

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Try shifting a manual with your left hand, then tell me which is the wrong side . . . ;)
 

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Its been a few hundred years, but I lived with my parents in Yokosuka, Japan when Dad was Chief of Staff, United States 7th Fleet (1960-61). Everything above is true. Just might add a few things: English is taught as a second language, so school kids (they all wore uniforms back then) might come up to you and ask to "plactice" their "engrish". Politely oblige. Also, no matter what, never let a situation brew where there could be a chance of your host losing face. Honor and integrity is everything.

Yep, they drive on the left. When Dad was in port we'd often go on day trips in his Navy staff car. Mom and Dad would sit in the back and I would sit up with the driver in a 1959 Plymouth Belvedere 4-door sedan with standard steering on the left side. Whenever the driver had to pass (like one of those 3-wheeled vans), he would inch over to the right so I could see better and I would give him the "go" or "no go" call. I still remember the driver's name. Craig Hazard from Oklahoma. Everyone called him "Hap."

As someone else mentioned, try to take time to visit various parts of the country. Kyoto and Nara and fabulous. The Bullet trains are incredible. Maybe take in a sumo wrestling match. Oh, and try to catch a Kabuki play.

If you decide to climb Mt. Fuji, the custom is to climb all night so you can arrive at the top for sunrise. Buy a climbing stick and get it branded at the various rest stops up the mountain to signify your accomplishment in making it to that particular elevation. Take an extra pair of shoes as the pumice will wear out the first. I went with the teen club (was 13 yo at the time). DON'T throw cherry bombs into the crater. And don't get chased off the top and take the wrong trail down. You might end up on the wrong side of the volcano. Oh, and don't ask me how I know these things!

Maybe things are better now, but we were strongly advised not to eat the salad. Had to do with what they were using for fertilizer(!).
 

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Maybe things are better now, but we were strongly advised not to eat the salad. Had to do with what they were using for fertilizer(!).


Ahhhhhhh Sooo...I think the term "Honey Buckets" may come in to play here..
 

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My girl friend is there about ten times a year, and although the new wore off about fifteen years ago, she still likes going.

If your on a base, you still benefit from little America, so culture shock isn't as bad as it would be if you were not connected to the States in someway.

My step sister and her husband were there for several years with no connection to westerners what so ever and they kind of got tired of it after the first year, which they loved, and spent the next year planning on how to get back to the States.

Get a business card if you plan on mixing with locals, printed on two sides, in English and Japanese. When you exchange cards, don't just stick it in your pocket like Americans do, take it as something valuable in both hands, and look at it like it is important, and interesting for 30 seconds or so.

Also when meeting important people in groups, the people doing the talking will not be those that are the most important. Unlike Americans, important Japanese business people don't talk in meetings, they listen, and have people who talk for them.

Also don't underestimate the number of Japanese business people who speak English. Many do, but won't with you. It is all a strategic business philosophy. Watch out what you say, and how you say it.

Go with an open mind. Don't be loud. Bow a lot. Smile. Your going to get lost, even the Japanese do, get used to it. Nothing is English, so don't confuse experiences you may have had in Europe. Wait till you see their toilets! Don't play with the buttons till you stand up or you may get some suprises! :p Everything there has some kind of digital melody that it plays, you can't escape them.

Get ready for $15 apples, and $75 square watermelons. Everything is expensive, expensive, expensive, unless you have a company expense account, that is.

It is like falling on another planet, strange but cool. China is more like America, than Japan.

P.S. Oh yea, if your walking on the street and men or women give you little pacts of Kleenexes with writing & designs all over them, they are not for wiping your nose, and you are probably in, or close to, a Red Light district, and it is their way of advertising their, uh, business. If you are a woman and take them, they think you might be looking for a new job, if you are a man, you are looking for, uh, never mind. :rolleyes:

My girlfriend brought home hundreds over the years because she new I liked to study the Japanese style of commercial design, and they were free. She would have the whole crew out collecting them for me. The ugly ones I took to work in a big bag one winter. People found out at our office I had them to give away so they were everywhere. Hundreds of them, really hundreds of them.

We got a visit from a bunch executives from Mazda once, and the next thing I know they are all in my office grinning and laughing. :eek: Someone told them the Kleenexes packages were all from me. :eek:

It was then I found out I had just become the companies Japanese entertainment director for their future stays in Germany. :D
 

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One commemt. Most Japanese are polite. Some are rude to suppliers, perhaps to show they have power, perhaps just because they can be. We are a supplier to a Japanese company, and they love to schedule teleconferences during our late evening at the last minute. Funny, but the parent company is incredibly polite. Part of it is the culture. Long meetings face-to-face meetings are the norm. The entire week belongs to the employer. The weekend is yours.

TerryMSU
 

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One commemt. Most Japanese are polite. Some are rude to suppliers, perhaps to show they have power, perhaps just because they can be. We are a supplier to a Japanese company, and they love to schedule teleconferences during our late evening at the last minute. Funny, but the parent company is incredibly polite. Part of it is the culture. Long meetings face-to-face meetings are the norm. The entire week belongs to the employer. The weekend is yours.

TerryMSU

Weekends free, not if they want to be entertained, and they can be really perverse when it comes to their entertainment desires.

You are right that when it comes to business, they play HARDBALL! Sometimes, you just have to walk.

All this about loosing face has to do with theirs, not yours, that is your problem. Don't forget you also have one to loose. Culture insults go in both directions, and they can be really insulting if they want. Don't back down, or you are weak.

In “business” I like the formal, polite, but TOUGH approach. If not they will bend you over the table.
 

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Weekends free, not if they want to be entertained, and they can be really perverse when it comes to their entertainment desires.

You are right that when it comes to business, they play HARDBALL! Sometimes, you just have to walk.

All this about loosing face has to do with theirs, not yours, that is your problem. Don't forget you also have one to loose. Culture insults go in both directions, and they can be really insulting if they want. Don't back down, or you are weak.

In ?business? I like the formal, polite, but TOUGH approach. If not they will bend you over the table.

I have never had an issue getting what I expect from any Japanese tooling we are having built.
I was christened A**hole San by one vendor about a year or so ago !!!!
I was so proud !!!!
 
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