Sea Rider
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Re: Anyone have info on Seamax inflatables?
Being following both posts with interest, each of you have their own particular opinion, so won't interfere with any of them, just add some more water to the broth :
On the web you can post any information regarding whatever you want to promote on your product, can even be big lies, don't kow if you guys have local legal regulations, penalties regarding false propaganda information on web sites ? Will doubt if Zodiac is using Mehler fabrics unless stated on ther web page, they used to make their own French material with fancy name called Duratex just not to mention that is plain pvc fabrics that scares some people to death, personally don?t have any issue with this material and price.
Most sibs/ribs comes from very few big manufactures which makes boats to other Companies, just a logo issue, same girl with different bra and even can choose color, accesories, the fabric you want your boats made from, hyapalon pvc, akron just to name most fabrics used.
Dupont still makes Hypalon, this material is used in other commercial applications not just boats and is the thin exterior coating of a heat laminating sleeve. Manufacturers as Zodiac, Gonmonautica, buys Hypalon rolls from Dupont same as Pennel and does the laminating process in their own plants.
Not a big issue to consider Mehler being 1100 denier fabric, is just plain standard 0.9 mm thick pvc now a days, so will cut as a cheese as any other same thickness fabric, this is not the fabric used on Rambo, Norris boats as seen on movies
Most reputed Chineese plants uses Korean fabrics including bonding materials, materials which are extremely affordable, so nonsense using crap materials. The cost of producing a pvc boat is only 35% of it's ex work price, the rest is hand labor and profit, so these guys don't work for peanuts.
What don't understand is: Why are you arguing about pvc materials and it's life span, do you plan for your grand children to inherit your old Zodiac, Mehler, Asian pvc sib ? If you are a real all year round boater, you should get rid of your pvc water toy each 5 years at the most, if not, will begin to pay high reparation fares for ungluing issues. 5 years is the best to obtain a nice second hand price and move to a new one. Don't you guys change cars every 2/3 years ? do about same with inflatables. As an example, Saturn was a perfect unknown brand some yaers ago, now it's better known for their good quality boats and affordable prices, be sure there will be other Asian manufacturers that will follow.
PD. Luveinfalatbleboats, you state that you buy from reputed dealers that offers a full warranty, why do you still have an issue wether it's welded or hand glued ? This issue sounds as a scratched record.
Happy Boating
Being following both posts with interest, each of you have their own particular opinion, so won't interfere with any of them, just add some more water to the broth :
On the web you can post any information regarding whatever you want to promote on your product, can even be big lies, don't kow if you guys have local legal regulations, penalties regarding false propaganda information on web sites ? Will doubt if Zodiac is using Mehler fabrics unless stated on ther web page, they used to make their own French material with fancy name called Duratex just not to mention that is plain pvc fabrics that scares some people to death, personally don?t have any issue with this material and price.
Most sibs/ribs comes from very few big manufactures which makes boats to other Companies, just a logo issue, same girl with different bra and even can choose color, accesories, the fabric you want your boats made from, hyapalon pvc, akron just to name most fabrics used.
Dupont still makes Hypalon, this material is used in other commercial applications not just boats and is the thin exterior coating of a heat laminating sleeve. Manufacturers as Zodiac, Gonmonautica, buys Hypalon rolls from Dupont same as Pennel and does the laminating process in their own plants.
Not a big issue to consider Mehler being 1100 denier fabric, is just plain standard 0.9 mm thick pvc now a days, so will cut as a cheese as any other same thickness fabric, this is not the fabric used on Rambo, Norris boats as seen on movies
Most reputed Chineese plants uses Korean fabrics including bonding materials, materials which are extremely affordable, so nonsense using crap materials. The cost of producing a pvc boat is only 35% of it's ex work price, the rest is hand labor and profit, so these guys don't work for peanuts.
What don't understand is: Why are you arguing about pvc materials and it's life span, do you plan for your grand children to inherit your old Zodiac, Mehler, Asian pvc sib ? If you are a real all year round boater, you should get rid of your pvc water toy each 5 years at the most, if not, will begin to pay high reparation fares for ungluing issues. 5 years is the best to obtain a nice second hand price and move to a new one. Don't you guys change cars every 2/3 years ? do about same with inflatables. As an example, Saturn was a perfect unknown brand some yaers ago, now it's better known for their good quality boats and affordable prices, be sure there will be other Asian manufacturers that will follow.
PD. Luveinfalatbleboats, you state that you buy from reputed dealers that offers a full warranty, why do you still have an issue wether it's welded or hand glued ? This issue sounds as a scratched record.
Happy Boating
