Anyone like this idea?

MAXXIE

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I had to retrieve in the dark the other night & on the way home I had this idea: What if I found a set of lights that were totally sealed & could be on under water. I would have them on a separate switch & only use on night retrievals. I would mount white lights along the trailer to out line the trailer itself & red or yellow on the out side of the bunks. This way it would be simpler to line the boat up in the dark. Stupid idea? Anyone ever do this? Just a passing thought.
 

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max,
this is what i did, i unplug my tail lites, i just put this lite in front (toward the boat) fixed the plug so it is jut on the marker side, so when i back in,i leave the markers on the truck, and plug this in.
that way no matter what angle the trailer the lite shines down the trailer.

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I have used a similar set up for years on all my fishing boat trailers. I mount an inexpensive fog light on the post below the winch with a separate wire and plug that taps into the marker lights on my connector. Not only easy to load but has said before makes backing the trailer much easier with the light following the trailer while backing.
 

180shabah

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ALL the lights on my trailer are LEDs, they work just fine when dunked at night....
 

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Utility lights from the farm store mounted to 2X3's (I use 2, one each side)
When needed I stick them into the pockets in the rear of the bed (most trucks have pockets for racks & such).
Then just plug into the trailer socket and leave the parking lights on for loading.
Don't get the spots. Too concentrated. Get the utilities (flood) and keep them pointed downish.
Pieces of reflective tape stategicly placed on trailer is a help too.

Easily stored after to prevent theift, weather, etc.

I think they work great for me anyways. :redface:
 

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can I ask what size wire you guys used with these utility light set ups, and how long can you actually run them with out worrying about the voltage heating up a small wire ???

one would think that utility light would pull a lot more that a regular tail light
 

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Actually, not that much.
I use a older trailer wire harness with the plug already on it.
No probs running 2 for quite awhile. Like hours when camping.

Could mount one to a clamp for the boat's railing too and run it off your trolling motor(?).
I've done that with mine for crabbing / squidding at night. ;)
 

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I've done a few things for night launching.
I've run a bypass feed to the reverse lights on the truck, with switch on a dash, later I added a switch on the bumper too. I also added a relay and a switch that let me trigger a set of rear facing driving lamps mounted under the rear bumper in steel enclosures.

I've also used that strip led lighting that you use on decks, (12v type), and run it along the sides of the trailer bunks, sort of like a landing strip. I used regular tube lighting in the clear vinyl tubes for years but when it finally died I found the LED lights. I had it connected with a simple switch to the trailer lights, also LED now. I could turn the bunk lights on or off.

On larger trailers, I mounted a pair of fog lights facing rearward on the bow stand but found they do more to blind you than help you see.

The best idea is a pair of lighted guide posts, they stickup, don't go out of sight when your over the trailer, and they keep the boat aligned as well.
 

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I too, just used an old trailer harness, the one little work lite dont use any more juice than the tail and side marker lite on the trailer. besides you dont have it on that long just to load the boat on the trailer

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MAXXIE

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Now that you mentioned LED's I remember those tube LED's at PEP Boys. You can get them in 4' long tubes & they are sealed. I guess you could just zip tie them to the bunks & wire them up with an old trailer plug (as mentioned above), Even if it were 110 type of lighting I have a built in socket in the cargo area of the FJ & could plug it in there. I think I'll head up to PEP Boys & pick up a few lengths of these LED's & try it out....Well as soon as I get done rebuilding the deck at the house. I took this week off to rebuild the deck on the house for the wife & can't take the boat out until it's finished. So I'll catch you all later, gotta get my *** in gear..........:D
 

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maxxie said:
I had this idea: What if I found a set of lights that were totally sealed & could be on under water.

Aren't those usually just called "boat trailer lights"??? Hopefully you already have some on your trailer ......

I'm not sure if I understand the point of this whole thread. Aren't your trailer lights waterproof??

When I retrieve at night, the car lights are on which means all of the trailer taillights and marker lights are also on. How can you NOT see a trailer with all those lights glowing under the water?

Only thing I can figure is that you're one of those who feel that you must unplug the trailer lights before you retrieve your boat. I guess that would make it more difficult!

maxxie said:
Even if it were 110 type of lighting I have a built in socket in the cargo area of the FJ & could plug it in there.

A 110V light system on your trailer is a BAD idea. If you don't understand why, try this simple experiment: Grab both terminals on your 12V battery and see what happens to you. Hint: You won't even feel it. Now go grab both wires on a 110V outlet and report the results (if it doesn't kill you).
 
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I agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^^. I never unplug my lights and haven't had any problems in 12 years or so. Trailer is very easy to hit at night with the lights glowing underwater.:)
 

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1st: Trailer maybe easy for you to hit at night, maybe not so easy for me.

2nd: The point of the thread is that I had an idea that will make it easier for "ME" to load at night.

3rd: Yes, I do have trailer lights & yes I am "one of those" who unplug them before I back it into the water. Why do you care what I do?

4th: The 110 is a factory plug & it is fused.

5th: I'm not sure if I understand the point of your reply. If you don't like the idea just hit the "back button" in the upper left corner of your computer screen, that will take you back 1 page.

6: I just thought it would look cool. When I finish it I'll "PM" you a picture & you can reply back as to how stupid it looks.
 

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1st: Trailer maybe easy for you to hit at night, maybe not so easy for me.

Just takes practice - you will get it.


3rd: Yes, I do have trailer lights & yes I am "one of those" who unplug them before I back it into the water. Why do you care what I do?

I think the point was - if all of the running lights on the trailer were lit, there is no need to spend more money for MORE lights....That was my point as well in post 4....

4th: The 110 is a factory plug & it is fused.

SO WHAT! add in a length of small gauge wire, and eventually there will also be corrosion - bet the fuse doesn't pop as fast as you would like.... IF at all.

6: I just thought it would look cool...

Now were getting to the heart of the matter. If you want to add more lights to your trailer to look cool, DO IT. You don't need the approval from anybody on a web forum.
 

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maxxie said:
1st: Trailer maybe easy for you to hit at night, maybe not so easy for me.

No big deal, as 180Fisherman said, it'll be easy with a little practice.

2nd: The point of the thread is that I had an idea that will make it easier for "ME" to load at night.

Point of my reply was that most trailers ALREADY had waterproof lights on them, why do you need more?

3rd: Yes, I do have trailer lights & yes I am "one of those" who unplug them before I back it into the water. Why do you care what I do?

I really don't care what you do. I'm killing time for an hour till I get off for a 3 day weekend to go watch the Pensacola (Blue Angels) airshow from the boat. I get paid the same for answering your questions as for anything else I do till then. It was you who asked in your original post:

maxxie said:
Stupid idea?

I was just trying to point out that what you were trying to do is already present on every boat trailer I've ever seen, since they already have waterproof lights on them.

Is there some reason you think these other lights you're talking about will be any different than the trailer lights that you currently feel the need to unplug to put the trailer in the water?

4th: The 110 is a factory plug & it is fused.

110 volt AC lights on a boat trailer is a BAD idea, no matter how it's fused. That will DEFINITELY come under the "stupid idea" clause in your original post. Do a little basic research on electricity and it's affects. From AllAboutCircuits, Physioloical Effects of Electricity:

How AC affects the body depends largely on frequency. Low-frequency (50- to 60-Hz) AC is used in US (60 Hz) and European (50 Hz) households; it can be more dangerous than high-frequency AC and is 3 to 5 times more dangerous than DC of the same voltage and amperage.

110V AC is 3 to 5 times more dangerous than 110V DC - how do you think it compares to 12V DC?

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_1/chpt_3/2.html

The paragraph below is from the MIT Electrical/Mechanical safety website. Pay attention to the sentence in bold about 110 AC in the first paragraph, and it's effects in the summary chart:

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From:
http://web.mit.edu/environment/ehs/electrical_mechanical.html

At 20 milliamps you can't let go of the circuit. 20 milliamps is 1/50 of an amp.

Notice the effects of 100 milliamps (1/10 of an amp) of 110V AC:

ventricular fibrillation; holds unconscious victim to the circuit, could be fatal

200 milliamps (1/5 of an amp) is even better:

Heart stops, muscles contract intensely & could break bones, severe burns, breathing stops
1 amp is 1000 milliamps. 100 milliamps is 1/10 of an amp, 200 milliamps is 1/5 of an amp. Check the fuse on your factory 110 circuit. If it is 1 amp then it has 10 times the current capability it needs to kill you.

Since power equals volts times amps, a 1 amp fuse would give you 110 x 1 = 110 watts of power at your plug. Just enough power to light a single 100 watt lightbulb. I bet you have a bigger fuse than 1 amp.

EDIT: Toyota claims 400 watts for the AC outlet, so the fuse will be at least 4, maybe 5 amps. Means you can electrocute yourself and 39 of your buddies at once using 100 milliamps each, since you'll have at least 4,000 milliamps available.

5th: I'm not sure if I understand the point of your reply. If you don't like the idea just hit the "back button" in the upper left corner of your computer screen, that will take you back 1 page.

Never said I didn't like your idea of lights on the trailer. I use it every time I put my boat on the trailer. Just trying to figure out why your trailer didn't come with it already. Why post your original question if you don't want answers? You can always go to your Iboat control panel and hit "IGNORE" for the posters who don't agree with you, then you won't see their posts anymore.

6: I just thought it would look cool. When I finish it I'll "PM" you a picture & you can reply back as to how stupid it looks.

Never saw anything about just "looking cool" in your original post. Must have had my tinfoil mindreader helmet turned off when you posted.
 

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LMAO! Sorry Shabah, I was also replying to another thread where 180Fisherman was posting and my little brain must have stopped after the first 3 characters. I meant to credit you with the quote! ...... :redface:
 

MAXXIE

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WOW! I was just wondering if anyone has done anything like that is all. I wasn't asking for anyone's approval, just thought it would be an interesting idea. You guy's need to get out on you boat more often instead of commenting on my dumbass idea. Be cool guy's, it's all good.:D
 

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WOW! I was just wondering if anyone has done anything like that is all. I wasn't asking for anyone's approval, just thought it would be an interesting idea. You guy's need to get out on you boat more often instead of commenting on my dumbass idea. Be cool guy's, it's all good.:D

You asked, they answered! :eek::D 110 V???:eek::eek::eek:
 
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