Arabs owning Ports in the U.S.

[lark2004]

Re: Arabs owning Ports in the U.S.

Originally posted by rwise:<br /> IMHO no none citizen should be allowed to own U. S. soil! period! ports whatever,,,,,,,,,,,

Thats a very one-sided view to have, since America ownes lots of land on other countries. Why can't other countries own land on America?

 

[KaGee]

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Originally posted by lark2004:<br />

Originally posted by rwise:<br /> IMHO no none citizen should be allowed to own U. S. soil! period! ports whatever,,,,,,,,,,,

Thats a very one-sided view to have, since America ownes lots of land on other countries. Why can't other countries own land on America?

Very good point Lark.

 

[rodbolt]

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how about all the shares the bush family has on foriegn soil? got its start way back with grandpappy prescott, I know its not PC to bust a family member or 2,3,4,5 or so. but grandapappy presscott got 2 big rewards by trading war materiels to the nazi's in WWII. he got a very light hit on his assets and a senatorship.<br /> the whole bush familily is like the kennady family only kinda worse.<br /> maybe dogsdad or 12ftr can come up with one business that was in w's generation that was not finaced and lost with saudi money or one banking scheme that did not cost the US taxpayer not gonna mention Niell bush (colorado savings and loan)and his bid to move micro chip manufacturing to china.

 

[heycods]

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I dont know about your facts rodbolt. but my thought on it is every last senator and represenative we have up there is just a corrupt.<br />If not give them a few terms and they will be. they can posture and make fancy speaches but it is all boils down to they are looking out for # 1<br /> I as you can tell love to hear Zell Miller talk. Is he croked probably, Jimmy Carter was an honorable man, In some ways he was, but his croked sweetheart deals for the peanut farmers in 1978 are still holding up today, no telling how many billions that has cost us.<br /> If I was there they would probably corrupt me to.<br />Never took a bribe or kickback in my life, took a fith of jack daniels one time but thats another story.

 

[KRS]

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Originally posted by lark2004:<br /> How do think we feel in Australia? <br />The US Government owns "something" in central Australia (Pine Gap, google it if you want)..... <br />We don't know what.... you won't tell us. Is it a nuclear plant? Weapons development? Alien technology? <br /><br />We would like to know if what you have out there makes us a target....

hehehe, muahahahhahaaaaa MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA<br /><br />Seriously, I just met a guy that lived in the nearest town from there.

 

[18rabbit]

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Originally posted by lark2004:<br /> How do think we feel in Australia?

Who cares?!?...your country’s total population is 2. Ok, you have a really big backyard, but you guys can easily be managed.<br /> <br />

Originally posted by lark2004:<br />The US Government owns "something" in central Australia (Pine Gap, google it if you want)..... <br />We don't know what.... you won't tell us. Is it a nuclear plant? Weapons development? Alien technology? <br /><br />We would like to know if what you have out there makes us a target....

A couple years ago I enquired from someone that would know…yes, ALL email msgs and faxes that originate or terminate anywhere in the US are routed overseas. What I didn’t know, and learned, was that ALL cell phone calls are also routed overseas. It’s not secret; it’s just not talked about.<br /><br />There are somethings that are illegal for the US gov’t to do in the US, so the gov’t goes abroad to engage in the otherwise illegal activities. That’s what is happening in your backyard; analysis of communication intercepts. It’s also going on in England.

 

[jtexas]

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Originally posted by 18R:<br /> What I didn’t know, and learned, was that ALL cell phone calls are also routed overseas. It’s not secret; it’s just not talked about.<br />

reminds me, I think my tinfoil hat has a leak.

 

[rodbolt]

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what amazes me in the whole political thing is how congress.senate and the white house have all issued ultimatums and fighting words that make it hard for any side to back down with honor, kinda like a toy car.<br /> the toy car that hits a wall and changes direction has a chance of going, the one that hits the wall and sits there till the battery dies has no chance.<br /> with an election year looming the senate and congress are looking for arse coverings and less interested in dialouge.<br /> will be interesting to watch this power play play out.<br />can W ram this through and stay the course or will he go down in lame duck flames?<br /> right now the rethoric doesnt leave much room for compremise without looking like you ran away, kinda like some other issues going on.

 

[KaGee]

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I'm starting to believe that a few of you here are suffering from carbon monoxide poisoning. You need to get out more and get some fresh air.

 

[dogsdad]

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Originally posted by 18R:<br /> A couple years ago I enquired from someone that would know…yes, ALL email msgs and faxes that originate or terminate anywhere in the US are routed overseas. What I didn’t know, and learned, was that ALL cell phone calls are also routed overseas. It’s not secret; it’s just not talked about.<br />

I think this is baloney. I know a bit about cellular communications, and there is no reason in the world to route calls all over hell and back.

 

[18rabbit]

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It was speculation on my part until Carnivore was retired. When the newer system came online it kind of let the cat out of the bag, news reports said a lot of the processing was going to be in Australia. That’s why I asked about it, there was info on the news part of the old system was retiring. The person I asked was someone that works for Homeland Security, was at Quantico for training, would be in a position to know. Believe what you want, see the list of ground stations here:<br /><br /> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON <br /><br /><br />Something I thought was even more scary, I asked this person if they could verify any of my family’s immigration to the US prior to 1897. Supposedly, a lot of the immigration records were destroyed in a fire at Ellis Island. They typed my (long deceased) grandfather’s name into a Homeland Security computer system and in half a heart beat all of my relatives associated with that family popped up on the monitor, an entire family tree from then to now; names, address, ss#, relationsips … There’s obviously a crap load more info on US citizen in gov’t databases than we are aware of.

 

[dogsdad]

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Originally posted by 18R:<br />Something I thought was even more scary, I asked this person if they could verify any of my family’s immigration to the US prior to 1897. Supposedly, a lot of the immigration records were destroyed in a fire at Ellis Island. They typed my (long deceased) grandfather’s name into a Homeland Security computer system and in half a heart beat all of my relatives associated with that family popped up on the monitor, an entire family tree from then to now; names, address, ss#, relationsips … There’s obviously a crap load more info on US citizen in gov’t databases than we are aware of.

Copied right off the wikipedia website:<br /><br /> ...Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.<br /><br /><br />Would you have us believe that you stood and watched someone type this name into a Homeland Security computer? You are being very specific about a "half a heart beat" by which I infer that you claim saw this with your own two eyes. I find it hard to believe that you, a guy off the street, would have such access, regardless of who you know.<br /><br />I am sure that those who have firsthand knowledge of Carnivore or any top secret intelligence gathering program are out there just typing away on wikipedia , spilling their guts. <br /><br />I think your credibility is seriously in question.

 

[18rabbit]

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Ignorance is bliss. I say keep going, dude, you’re well on your way to nirvana.

 

[dogsdad]

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I'm a little more selective about the information I accept as fact. I'll not be following you to "nirvana."

 

[RubberFrog]

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18, without giving any credible sources for your information other than "I know this one guy..." you do seem a little W'ish with the "trust me, I know what's best" routine. Sorry.

 

[lark2004]

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[lark2004]

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Originally posted by lark2004:<br />

Originally posted by 18R:<br />

Originally posted by lark2004:<br /> How do think we feel in Australia?

Who cares?!?...your country’s total population is 2. Ok, you have a really big backyard, but you guys can easily be managed.<br /> <br /> <br /><br />Are you really that dumb? What make you think the 20 million of us need YOU to manage us??????<br /><br />It's people like you, making stupid comments like that, that make everyone else around the world use the phrase F**KING STUPID YANKS <br /><br />Please do not think that that is my view of all Americans, I have many friends in the States, I have family in the States, unfortunatly, it's just dumb comments that aren't thought through that get the most attention.

 

[RubberFrog]

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Lark, I think you missed the smile at the end of his post.

 

[rodbolt]

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lark I think the 2 folks and a big backyard comment was in jest, looked like it to me .

 

[lark2004]

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Smiley at the end or not, what the hell is with the "easily managed" bit???? <br />I'm sorry, but that comment was just loaded with the idea that America is the World Police.