Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

[199675hpforce]

Mercury owned force for a few years and should be responsable for all the problems dont ya think. Mine looks new and should idle better in my book. Having to pump the bulb to kept sorta running sucks. I have worked on this thing for to long. Does anyone know if there are like TSBs for outboards lemon laws? Someones got to know. My engine has the Mercury name on it but what gives? Should we start a class action lawsuit here. Maybe then you can A get our engines resolved or send us new old model year engines for replacment.

 

[ZmOz]

Re: Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

Lemon laws don't apply to products that are just poorly designed. You bought a peice of crap. Either sell it or deal with it.

 

[roscoe]

Re: Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

Sorry, no lemon laws for outboards.<br /><br />So what is wrong with it?<br />Rough idle, have to pump the primer bulb, and a knocking noise at idle. <br /><br />Your compression isn't too bad, considering your elevation, you are still at about 7:1.<br /><br />Have you got a good strong spark to all cylinders?<br /><br />Just so we know where to start, what have you tried to remedy the problems?<br /><br />Here a couple easy things that I would do right off the bat.<br /><br />1. decarb the engine, how to decarb the engine<br /><br />2. replace the sparkplugs<br />3. clean the built-in fuel filter<br />4. replace any external fuel filter you may have.<br />5. replace the entire fuel line, including the bulb.<br />6. Make sure the fuel tank vent is open and unobstructed.<br />7. Revove and clean the fuel pick-up in the fuel tank. Or use a different tank for testing purposes.<br />8. Replace the fuel pump diaphram<br /><br />So far, this will cost you about $45-$55.<br /><br />You are at 6,000' above sea level? Or higher??<br /><br />9. You are going to need to adjust your carb for the elevation. A smaller main jet, too.<br /><br />So get a carb reuild kit, tear it down, clean it, check the jet size, and consult a local boat shop to see how much smaller you need to go. The stock jet is .094, you may need to go to a .090, or .088<br /><br />You should be able to do the carb for $30.<br /><br />So do the first 8 things on the list an see if it helps the situation. Then do the carb.<br /><br />If you want a good manual, order one from Mercury, about $30.<br /><br />Keep posting back and let us know what is happening.

 

[roscoe]

Re: Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

ZmOz, that wasn't nice. He's frustrated enough, don't you think?

 

[rbruce63]

Re: Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

Please also replace the diaphragms of the fuel pumps. This resolved the problem in my 1969 Chrysler that couldn't idle without pumping the priming bulb every so often.

 

[ZmOz]

Re: Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

Originally posted by roscoe:<br />ZmOz, that wasn't nice. He's frustrated enough, don't you think?

If he would have asked for help I would have given it to him. That's not what he was looking for...he wants mercury to send him a new engine for his mistake.

 

[Speed29669]

Re: Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

Here we go again. The following is a reply I wrote over a year to a post almost identical to this one:<br /><br />"It is a motor without bells and whistles and the price reflects that. Merc doesn't claim it is anything more. It is no more unsafe than any other outboard. Some motors are designed better than others, but again the price reflects that. If you want a superior motor then pay superior prices. If you don't and pay the lower price then don't complain. Forces were originally Chryslers, which at the time (1970's) were known to be good motors compared with the rest. The technology hasn't changed on the powerheads though. Compared with motors of today they will lag behind. What is interesting here is that I came across a forum last weekend based soley as a complaint board for how lousy late model Yamaha's are. "What?????" you say. "Yamaha a bad motor? I thought they are the best and never wear out!!!" The board is full of many bad things about Yamaha. Of course every post is from those who have had a problem with the motor. Does that mean a Yamaha is a bad motor? No it doesn't. It is a bunch of people who had bad luck with their motors, at least half probrably causing the problem in the first place, getting together to rant because they just cannot accept the fact that something broke on them. Not every motor, regardless of brand, is going to last 20 years, or even ten years for that matter. My point is I'm tired of hearing people blame others and knock manufacturers for everything bad that happens to them. Your motor burned up after you had it for 4 years? Things wear out. You had some bad luck. Maybe you didn't keep it maintained properly. S*** happens. Get over it."<br /><br />Go here to see the other post:<br /><br /> http://www.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003120

 

[12Footer]

Re: Are there any class action lawsuits against Mercury

Well, Zmoz, I guess you can't argue with facts, so why try, right?<br />He did buy a poorly designed motor, but then he paid about half of what he would've paid for a Yamadawg, and still, may have had the same problem.<br />I would forget the lawsuit, and do as Rbruce63 and Roscoe sugjested.<br /><br />Fuel punp diaphrams are made of rubber. Alcohol eats rubber. Alcohol-enhanced fuels destroy fuel pump diaphrams and in some motors, needle seats and o-rings.<br />The diaphram is good for about 200 hours if you are lucky.<br />So replace the thing, and do a compression test. The fuel pump diaphram is motivated by engine compression.<br />As for new-looking..I saw a new Contender with twin yammies get towed back to the marina at werk last Wednesday...Those engines were less than 1 year old, and I was told that they both blew up, one after the other. The first was a L/U failure. The starboard yammie was overheating.<br />But they sure looked great hanging on the back of that pretty offshore machine.<br />\