Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 54.2%
  • No

    Votes: 17 28.8%
  • I'm that guy.

    Votes: 10 16.9%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .

reelfishin

Captain
Joined
Mar 19, 2007
Messages
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Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

The boats I buy are almost always project boats, so I see all sort of rigs.
The one's that bother me the most are those that could have been either completely avoided or done correctly for either less or the same amount as the junk repair.

I bought a center console the other day on which the last owner sawed two control boxes in half, mounted one on the right and one on the left side of the console, giving him separate shift and throttle controls on opposite sides of the console. He didn't stop there, instead of buying factory cables, he used straight cable, (the type used for PTO controls on trucks), and drilled the inside of the control arms to attach these plain cables too. He had wood clamps or blocks which held the cable housings in place to the side of the fiberglass console. The helm was new, but the cable must have been too short, so he moved the console back 14", leaving an exposed hole in the deck, which he covered with a custom built wood box and bass boat seat, and he rotated the helm to allow the cable to exit straight down. The cable was seized when I got it, it was full of water from the angle and location it was mounted in. The motor was fine, just overhauled by a reputable dealer, and the trailer was like new.
I am sure someone spent a good day or two making that mess, when for a few dollars could have done it right.

Keep in mind that most people don't sell a boat or car unless it's either giving them problems, is costing them too much money, or they just don't care about it anymore. Not many people sell a boat or car that they really like and trust.

Anytime I go to look at a boat, I try to figure out why it's for sale. "I bought a new boat", "I'm looking to buy something bigger", or "I bought it but decided not to use it" are all suspect lines to me. The last time I bought a new or another boat, I liked my old boat and kept it, always have. I found that most real boat fanatics have multiple boat syndrome, selling a well liked, good running boat just doesn't happen very often. The best case scenario is usually an inherited boat, one that is found sitting just as it was last used, and not too long after if you lucky. Figuring out why they want to dump is often the most important part of deciding on whether to buy a particular boat. (Finding a perfect running boat with no leaks and a mint trailer for cheap, from a guy who obviously knows boats would make me very suspicious of the boat or the transaction).

I have sold projects that I deemed not worth my while, or those boats I decided just weren't what I really wanted, but those all got sold as projects.
I rarely sell a complete boat. The reasons or what the boat needed were obvious.
 

IES99

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Jun 3, 2008
Messages
271
sucky?

sucky?

"primer bulbs on I/O engines"

I read this post and realized that I fit this category (not sucky: just have a primer bulb on my I/O and I put it there. After I added a water separating fuel filter to mine, I found it took forever for the mechanical pump to get fuel to the carb if it sat for more than a week. I added the primer bulb between the separator filter and the fuel pump. Works like a charm. :D
 

slasmith1

Lieutenant Junior Grade
Joined
Dec 2, 2008
Messages
1,028
Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

The boats I buy are almost always project boats, so I see all sort of rigs.
The one's that bother me the most are those that could have been either completely avoided or done correctly for either less or the same amount as the junk repair.

I bought a center console the other day on which the last owner sawed two control boxes in half, mounted one on the right and one on the left side of the console, giving him separate shift and throttle controls on opposite sides of the console. He didn't stop there, instead of buying factory cables, he used straight cable, (the type used for PTO controls on trucks), and drilled the inside of the control arms to attach these plain cables too. He had wood clamps or blocks which held the cable housings in place to the side of the fiberglass console. The helm was new, but the cable must have been too short, so he moved the console back 14", leaving an exposed hole in the deck, which he covered with a custom built wood box and bass boat seat, and he rotated the helm to allow the cable to exit straight down. The cable was seized when I got it, it was full of water from the angle and location it was mounted in. The motor was fine, just overhauled by a reputable dealer, and the trailer was like new.
I am sure someone spent a good day or two making that mess, when for a few dollars could have done it right.

Keep in mind that most people don't sell a boat or car unless it's either giving them problems, is costing them too much money, or they just don't care about it anymore. Not many people sell a boat or car that they really like and trust.

Anytime I go to look at a boat, I try to figure out why it's for sale. "I bought a new boat", "I'm looking to buy something bigger", or "I bought it but decided not to use it" are all suspect lines to me. The last time I bought a new or another boat, I liked my old boat and kept it, always have. I found that most real boat fanatics have multiple boat syndrome, selling a well liked, good running boat just doesn't happen very often. The best case scenario is usually an inherited boat, one that is found sitting just as it was last used, and not too long after if you lucky. Figuring out why they want to dump is often the most important part of deciding on whether to buy a particular boat. (Finding a perfect running boat with no leaks and a mint trailer for cheap, from a guy who obviously knows boats would make me very suspicious of the boat or the transaction).

I have sold projects that I deemed not worth my while, or those boats I decided just weren't what I really wanted, but those all got sold as projects.
I rarely sell a complete boat. The reasons or what the boat needed were obvious.

since every boat owner will eventually sell a boat you are saying they are all liars and cheats?
since all you have ever sold is a crappy boat that needs a lot of work thats all anyone sells?
I think you should broaden your horizons there are still some descent people out there.
 

skargo

Banned
Joined
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Messages
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Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

since every boat owner will eventually sell a boat you are saying they are all liars and cheats?
since all you have ever sold is a crappy boat that needs a lot of work thats all anyone sells?
I think you should broaden your horizons there are still some descent people out there.

Good point, my boats previous owner is a good guy, and keeps in touch with me even now, after the sale. He did own my boat for 31 years, I'm guessing he was attached to it. I almost feel guilty for buying it for such a good price.
 

NickAndJena

Petty Officer 2nd Class
Joined
Mar 1, 2009
Messages
102
Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

I really honestly do think the guy we bought our boat from was too stupid to know the condition of the boat he sold us. We have documentation that proves he only owned it for about 10 months. My best guess is that he thought it was "lake ready". We even have photos from his MySpace page showing him and his family in the boat on the lake.

With that said, if he was "too stupid" as I said above. What does that mean about us, the people who bought it from him?

Argh... The good news is, we now know more about this boat than we ever thought we would.

AND

After buying a used boat, we pretty much have a new one now.

hahaha
 

PNW Driver

Seaman
Joined
Apr 29, 2009
Messages
55
Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

My boats two p.o.s are both co workers and the most recent gave me reciepts going back ten years and totalling over 6k. I know what was done at one time and what hasn't been done. He sold it to me as a project for 250 bucks. Trailer, boat, downriggers, anchor, pfds, bumpers, etc. Six months later he came across crab pots in his garage and gave them to me. It is a project and became one when he neglected it. I got what I paid for and what he represented.
 

chrishayes

Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Apr 9, 2009
Messages
691
Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

My PO story is kinda hard to grasp so bear with me.

I bought the boat from a guy that just wanted a nice boat to take fishing and skiing with his family. He was not mechanically inclined whatsoever so he took the book at face value. He had bought the boat from a reputable dealer in his area for a whopping $2700 as a "sound" boat. When I went to pick up the boat he tells me that the floor is in good shape save a spot in the bow and the motor needed a "carb adjustment". He even took the time to show me a video of he and his family out on the river enjoying a day of tubing. There were 4 adults and 4 kids on the boat(After what I found to be the shape of the boat, this was NOT a good idea:eek:). I bought the boat because it ran and the hull was in good shape not to mention it had a good trailer with new tires and wheels that he through in for $100.

Once I got it home, I took it on the water to see where it was at mechanically speaking. The motor ran, but would bog heavily and hardly ever get on plane. I was not intending to use the boat without tearing into it to find out why the bow was squishy. I recently started gutting the boat, cap off, motor off, floor off...WTF is this????????????:eek:
boat004.jpg


Look at that transom! it didnt even require a tool to remove, just a hard breath and it crumbled into the bilge. Would you take a family and freinds out on this? The shop should have been sued. Buyer beware!
boat005.jpg
The shop that he bought it from had got the boat in one sad pile and did a "flip" on it. They scabbed 2x4's to the completely rotten stringers up to a "new" PT deck, covered it with marine carpet(damn good job actually) slapped a "running" motor on it, shot the outside and cap with a nice fresh coat of white paint, a few pinstripes and a big ol sticker that said $2700 "hurry, this one wont last".

I guess after this long winded rant, I am trying to say that sometimes it isnt the PO that you need to be worried about, its the PPO(previous, previous owner):rolleyes:
 

Barley109

Cadet
Joined
May 3, 2003
Messages
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Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

I thank all previous owners for inadvertently forcing me to find Iboats. I am much more informed for doing so. I really appreciate the knowledge I gain from reading all of these posts over the past few years.
Some folks like novels. Some like the newspaper. I would rather read a manual...and since none of my boats came with a boat restoration manual...I come here!
 

Lightnig

Petty Officer 2nd Class
Joined
Jun 7, 2009
Messages
189
Re: Are there any non-sucky previous owners?

For every bad PO there is also a moronic boat buyer.

Hey!

I resemble that remark... :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:






But, thanks to you all and this forum I plan to be the 'other' kind of PO when it comes time to get rid of my present project... :)
 
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