are these gel coat cracks or something more serious? (pic included)

gman546

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Looking to buy a 1986 sea ray sundancer 268 twin 4.3Ls off a guy where everything looks right, hes showed me great pics of everything, but he sent me one pic (below) of the transom and says these are just gel coat cracks and the transom is solid. i've not seen gel coat cracks like this before but i know theyre possible. i have no reason to think hes not reputable (actually verified with a few people he is), but everyone makes mistakes. what do you guys think? its only on the left side of the transom.

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gman546

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Take big steps in rapid succession , away from this deal.
I think the transom is rotten.
I will not probably back out of the deal because for the price im getting it for, the double axle galvanized trailer would sell for double my price im paying for everything if i had to scrap the boat, but im looking for real opinions on what it is if possible rather than just if you would run or not. Of course run to be safe, but im safe via the price already.
 

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The wood in the transom is wet,it swelled up and cracked the gel. If you like the boat then rebuild it.
 

gman546

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How much are you being Paid to take it away?
put it this way - if i had to scrap the boat and sell the trailer, it would still be very profitable. But i would like the boat. im just not financially at risk with it. id like to put the financials of the deal aside. like for the 4th time, im safe on that front. i wish to talk about the actual problem and the cost barrier to move further and assess the seriousness of it and understand how these boats get/got to this kind of state.
 
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MikeSchinlaub

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Big transom, figue in another $8-10k to replace it and all of the stringers and floor. That doesn't include engine removal and probably lots of work to those too. Also doesn't include fixing the gel coat on the back.

". i wish to talk about the actual problem."

The problem is the transome is rotten, along with the rest of the wood.
 

gman546

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The wood in the transom is wet,it swelled up and cracked the gel. If you like the boat then rebuild it.
twin engines, if i rebuilt it it would need everything taken off and reglassing. that has to cost 10k+ right? CDN
 
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flashback

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twin engines, if i rebuilt it it would need everything taken off and reglassing. that has to cost 10k+ right? CDN
Thought you said coin was not to be involved in the discussion, doing the work it would take yourself you might break even at 10 cents an hour.
 

gman546

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Thought you said coin was not to be involved in the discussion, doing the work it would take yourself you might break even at 10 cents an hour.
Not interested in discussing the cost of the deal. didnt ask about that. there is more in the deal that makes it a good one.

Talking about the severity of the cracks and the cost if i wanted to take the boat further specifically to understand part-out or fix
 
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put it this way - if i had to scrap the boat and sell the trailer, it would still be very profitable. But i would like the boat. im just not financially at risk with it. id like to put the financials aside. like for the 4th time, im safe on that front. i wish to talk about the actual problem.
You post asking about cracks in the Gel, when told to walk away you reveal you are buying it regardless. There are plenty of Threads of transom replacement. I suggest you read them, before asking more questions
Good Luck
 

gman546

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You post asking about cracks in the Gel, when told to walk away you reveal you are buying it regardless. There are plenty of Threads of transom replacement. I suggest you read them, before asking more questions
Good Luck
I'm not sure you read what you quoted before you replied. My post is asking for some advice or a scale score on how bad the cracks are in people's experience. It's not asking if i should buy the boat, how much i paid for the boat, nor does it warrant any other subjective opinion that i didn't ask for about the deal itself. Not here to justify the deal. there is more in it than you're understanding that makes it good for me no matter what.

I'm asking about information about the cracks, the severity, and discussion on suspected possible root causes. It's very simple. you're making it very hard and injecting anger where it isnt nessisary. It's also ignorant tbh. I read the threads. nothing had cracks line mine.
 
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Maybe if you told us the reason you want to buy that piece of garbage boat we could better respond to your question. If you are buying it to use, you are wasting your time. It’s garbage and likely isn’t repairable. If you are buying it to sell the trailer and make money from the sale then buy it. Don’t forget it’ll cost some $$$ to scrap it. Just the little bit I see i would not buy that boat. So why do you want to buy that boat without regard to the potential costs. Those are not just gel coat cracks that is a rotten transom, likely the rest of the boat is rotten. You are being rather secretive for no known reason.
 

MikeSchinlaub

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I'm asking about information about the cracks, the severity, and discussion on suspected possible root causes.
I think you missed post #8, we posted at almost the same time.

As far as root cause, it's old. Water got in and did it's thing, normal with wood core.
 
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