Back-to-Back Seat Repair

mgmidget72

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Hi All,

I have a minor repair question about my new-to-me 1999 Sea Ray 180 bowrider O/B. Can you replace captive nuts in seats without removing all the upholstery? Here?s some background -

Underneath my back-to-back seats on the port side, there are some aluminum rails that hold the bar which locks the seat into place. Many of the stainless bolts holding these rails to the seats have come loose or fallen out because the non-stainless nuts inside the seats have completely deteriorated. It?s the same case with the bolts on the hinges between the seat sections. I can?t see them, but they appear to be some special type of nut that?s held captive by the plywood seat bottom/back so that the bolts can be installed blind. I imagine that they would be easy to replace if I took the seat cover off, but that?s more work than I really want to get into right now. What options do I have?

A similar situation also exists on the forward ski-locker cover. This is the cover that is screwed down to the floor. Two pieces of wood were bolted on the aft edge to create a lip for the removable cover to sit on. So that the floor is smooth, these bolts came up from below, through the cover and into, what I can only guess, were some recessed non-stainless captive nuts (still all below the carpet though). I say ?can only guess? because these are completely gone. Only the bolts remain, but I can see a shallow square pocket around each bolt hole. Luckily in this case, I can get to the other side of the wood. Any thoughts about what type of nuts these were, or how I can reattach the lip to the cover?

It?s frustrating that Sea Ray scrimped on non-stainless nuts after they spent the money to use stainless bolts.

Thanks!
Scott
 

mgmidget72

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Re: Back-to-Back Seat Repair

One more thing - eventually the seats need to reupholstered, but I was hoping to get at least one season out of them first. Would it just be easier to deal with everything now?
 

ezmobee

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Re: Back-to-Back Seat Repair

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to simply replace the seats with new loungers?
 

mgmidget72

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Re: Back-to-Back Seat Repair

ez - I hadn't considered that. Would it be? I just assumed that taking them to the local marine upholstery shop would be less than a new set.

Are there any preferred/recommended brands?

Thanks
 

emoney

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Re: Back-to-Back Seat Repair

It's probably a lot different in Conn., but marine uphostery shops around here a very expensive. To recover a back-to-back I've been
quoted between $150-175 without changing wood. New ones can be had for $200.00 Temporarily, you could always cut through a spot and staple it back. If you plan to redo them or replace them, you've got nothing to lose.
 

ezmobee

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Re: Back-to-Back Seat Repair

Yeah re-upholstery is expensive! And I think the majority of the new seats are a bargain for what you get. Many have plastic structures that will obviously never rot.
 

mgmidget72

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Re: Back-to-Back Seat Repair

So the stainless tee nuts I linked to above did the trick on the ski-locker cover. Based on how easily they went in, I think that's what was there - just no stainless.

I think that's probably what was in the seats too, I just can't get to the back side of the base. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Scott
 
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