Bearing Buddy grease nipple failure

[Fed]

It's a marine seal Bruce, different to the old fashioned ones you use.
The seals remain stationary on the axles and the running surface is on a stainless steel insert pressed into the hub, quite common now days.

 

[bruceb58]

It's a marine seal Bruce, different to the old fashioned ones you use.
The seals remain stationary on the axles and the running surface is on a stainless steel insert pressed into the hub, quite common now days.

You have that backwards for a standard axle. You have a torsion axle?

 

[Fed]

Check Google Images for 'boat trailer marine seals' Bruce.

 

[bruceb58]

Check Google Images for 'boat trailer marine seals' Bruce.

Show me a link of what you have. Everything I see is the standard seal.

 

[Fed]

See both types of seal here.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...0....0...1ac.1.64.img..10.15.2231.1z8piI-oU3U

One type is a fixed seal and the other type (like yours) is a rotating seal.
They all do the same job but the fixed seal can't move back because it's stopped by the axle shoulder.
Retro fitting fixed seals to an older axle may require fitting spacers between the seal & the shoulder to achieve this, it did for me on a previous trailer.

 

[Fed]

Just a thought Bruce maybe they're not used in the US, I'm in Oz and Google sort of tends to take me to Oz sites.
These seals have been used down here for ages.

 

[bruceb58]

The only seals that show up are the ones like I have. Can you do a direct link to a picture. You have my curiosity piqued.

If this is it, this is pressed into the hub isn't it?
http://www.boeingtrailers.com.au/bro...g-marine-seal/

EDIT: I think I see how those work now. No trailers here have those.

 

[Fed]

Yes that's the type but that seal is pressed on to the axle and the stainless steel outer ring is pressed into the hub.
The seal (rubber) remains stationary and the as outer ring spins with the hub.

 

[bruceb58]

Yes that's the type but that seal is pressed on to the axle and the stainless steel outer ring is pressed into the hub.
The seal (rubber) remains stationary and the as outer ring spins with the hub.

yes, I finally saw a picture where the two were shown separate. Wonder why they are used. The seals we use are double lipped just like the ones that are in your sterndrive.

Doesn't seem like they would be very good at holding pressure from a bearing buddy.

So I see the term Holden Axle mentioned. Is that the type of axle that uses those?

 

[Fed]

Holden is a local name for GM based cars down here.

 

[am_dew]

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Good idea, but I don't think that I'll be able to remove the bolt that is now part of the BB's face due to the JB Weld I used to hold it in place and seal the hole.

A pic of my temporary repair

 

[gm280]

A pic of my temporary repair

I realize that JB Weld is some great epoxy, but even JB can't stand up to a good socket and ratchet to break them loose. And once you get that bolt out, clean up the area and install a jerk fitting. Jerk fittings are everywhere. You could even get a few from a salvage yard probably for nothing. Just take a small crescent wrench along and have at it... JMHO!

 

[Villain lll]

I realize that JB Weld is some great epoxy, but even JB can't stand up to a good socket and ratchet to break them loose. And once you get that bolt out, clean up the area and install a jerk fitting. Jerk fittings are everywhere. You could even get a few from a salvage yard probably for nothing. Just take a small crescent wrench along and have at it... JMHO!

I bet the inner section will just spin if not removed from the outer casing. There's nothing to hold it in place.
Most newer Bearing Buddy's, including the Harbor Freight knockoffs, have a pressure relief system to help prevent overfilling ,and blowing out the rear seal.
Many still think that the more grease the better and it's true that the rear seal needs some grease pressure to help seal and also to lube the seal for longevity.
However, not the case if too much is blowing out that seal and so, now they have helped to prevent overfilling.
I have added all double lipped seals to help prevent potential leakage after blowing out one.

http://forums.iboats.com/filedata/fetch?photoid=10046050&type=small

 

[Thalasso]

Bearing buddies or not. You immerse the wheels in cold water while it's hot from traveling like 99% of people do you stand a good chance of sucking in water.

 

[Richmond2000]

Holden is a local name for GM based cars down here.

I HAD a VE Commodore called a pontiac G8
are you guys using holden steer hubs as trailer hubs?
those multi piece seals look like what we use on commercial trailers IE "big rig" / lorry trailers
where a metal collar "wear ring" is installed on the spindle and the seal is fitted to the hub and then then the wheel end is assembled onto the unit

 

[am_dew]

I HAD a VE Commodore called a pontiac G8
are you guys using holden steer hubs as trailer hubs?
those multi piece seals look like what we use on commercial trailers IE "big rig" / lorry trailers
where a metal collar "wear ring" is installed on the spindle and the seal is fitted to the hub and then then the wheel end is assembled onto the unit

Like this?

http://www.iboats.com/Bearing-Buddy-Spindo-Seal/dm/view_id.39424

Anyone have any thoughts on them?

 

[Richmond2000]

yes those are the ONES I looked at online and look like stemco commercial truck wheel seals
but re reading the post about the ones in OZ he takes about it being reversed with the wear ring in the HUB VS on the spindle
using a wear ring the original surface of the hub/spindle does NOT have to be perfect anymore as the wear ring covers up any scratches / corrosion pitting

 

[jayhanig]

You might want to give the tip of your gun a turn or two. I`ve gotten my gun stuck before finding that the grip of the tip can be adjusted by turning the outside collar to loosen its bite.

You beat me to it. It's been my experience whenever a grease gun gets stuck on a zerk fitting, it's always just a matter of giving the collar around the tip of the gun a couple of turns counterclockwise. Just as when grease squirts out from around the collar instead of going in the fitting, a turn or two clockwise will tighten the connection properly.

 

[am_dew]

You beat me to it. It's been my experience whenever a grease gun gets stuck on a zerk fitting, it's always just a matter of giving the collar around the tip of the gun a couple of turns counterclockwise. Just as when grease squirts out from around the collar instead of going in the fitting, a turn or two clockwise will tighten the connection properly.

I had no idea...thanks for the tip!