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horn

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how do i tighten the belt that comes from under the flywheel to the pully on top of the distributer assembly on my 1979 merc 6 cyl 90 hp <br />tiger block outboard sn:1809566 model # 900<br />thanks to all.<br />Horn
 

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Heh....<br /><br />That's no '79... '69 maybe though. :D <br /><br />You can't tighten it, you replace it. Still available from Mercury.<br /><br />-W
 

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Heh Heh, Guessing at date of mfg. 79 year of boat<br />now I can say "its an antique". seems to be in good cond. no spark to plugs. where are the points? took off dist cap, plugs wires screwed into cap.need tuneup kit, where may I get one?<br /> thanks:<br /> Horn.<br />ps/ never worked on outboard before. Heh.Heh.
 

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Ya, the last year of the Tiger block was 1969 but it COULD be as old as 1962. We need the serial number of the engine to nail easily down the year and what type of ignition it has.<br /><br />It don't work that way like a car. Mercury gouges the parts. (Caps over $100 etc etc) The rotor is likely PART of the shaft costs about $300.<br /><br />Assume the wires are good unless they sparkle at night. You need to clean the cap (then run it through the dishwasher) and replace the little carbon brush in the center. The rotor is forever.<br /><br />No spark is likely the trigger or the switchbox assuming it's all wired up correctly and getting power.<br /><br />-W
 

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with switch on have power to starter,choke, and red wire from switch to black plastic block with 2 yellow wires. no power to the yellow wires when switch is on. every thing under flywheel looks new. bought new switch. wire colors different. one wire is called salmon color. havent seen a salmon here in montana yet. motor is a model 900<br />merc. with electric start.90 hp. serial #1809566<br />(1966?) any safe way to wire direct to see if it will run at all or at least fire.?<br />thanks for your time Clams, I do appreciate your help.<br />Horn
 

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I get 1965 on that number according to John's site. If it's a 1965 it has two round ignition coils - correct? In that case switchbox test will not apply (unless it's been retrofitted).<br /><br />Please let me know.<br /><br />-W
 

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has 2 coils like old cars have. they have a merc logo and kiekhaffer printed on them also use external resistor, 12v, # kc32193. must be a 65 eh?<br />horn
 

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Yup 1965.<br /><br />I'll give you a run-down on that in that AM. Totally different system. It has breaker points and condensers and stuff. :) <br /><br />You REALLY need to get the Mercury 1965 and prior manual. Even with my help.<br /><br />-W
 

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What is a filler block, Ifound one in the back by transom . it is a little alum. piece w/grooves in it. will order the manual asap.<br />thanks<br />horn. :confused:
 

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I'm not sure, but I think you might have defined it. Is it just a block used to get proper transom height / spacing ?<br /><br />Now on to tune up.<br /><br />This is a conventional points / coil ignition.<br />You need B+ (12v nominal) through the resistors to the coils when the key is on. <br /><br />The plug wires do not pull out - they unscrew.<br /><br />The distributor has a "duel rotor". To drop the cap you need to 1st pull the thing on the side with one of the coil wires going to it and remove it and it's carbon brush. The 2nd carbon brush is in the center of the cap.<br /><br />This thing is basicly 2 ignitions in one, where one set of points and coil fires three cylinders and the other set does the other three.<br /><br />There are four bolts that hold the distributor body to the stalk. once the cap is off you can remove the four bolts and drop the rest of it rotor and all. Mark it and the stalk so no mistakes are made in re-asembly. The rotor just pulls off the shaft, but be carefull, they are usually quite stuck.<br /><br />Once the rotor is off you can remove the cover to the points area. You'll find two sets of points and two condensers. We'll assume all is good in there. :D <br /><br />Dress the points lightly with a points file and apply a bit of lube to the cam wick. Then set the points as follows:<br /><br />Get (or make) a 360 degree wheel. There is a template online at John's Old Mercury site.<br /><br />Set the dwell (closure time)of 1 set for exactly 90 degrees use a light bulb or ohmeter to determine closed. Once the one set is done, set the other set to open EXACTLY 60 degrees after the 1st set is open, regardless of it's dwell.<br />Then you can put it all back, clean the cap, and reassemble.<br /><br />Once you have all that stuff back together, follow the tuning post I did last week. Max advance for that one is 34 degrees.<br /><br />-W<br /><br />PS: Hey JB? I think I deserve a "promotion" directly to "Anciant Mariner" for knowing how to time a 1965 off the top of my head. :D
 

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That may come up a bit after it's run. Use a can of "Mercury Power Tune" as directed to deal with any sticky rings.<br /><br /><br />-W
 

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took the points assembly off. put on multi tester, dial on ohms. touched tester positive to flat spring on one set of points got reaction on guage. did the same on other set, got reaction on guage.-needle pegged out on guage. one set seems to be working ok. left it alone other set had old grease on contacts and control arm, to rotor. cleaned off grease put all back together. put meter on.now get reaction on one set at a time when turning dist shaft. point gap on set I left alone is tight drag at .003 on feeler guage. what should it be set at.<br />thanks: horn
 

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"Gap" is not applicable here.<br /><br />One set needs to be set to be closed for 90 degrees of rotation, the second set is then set to open EXACTLY 60 degrees after the 1st set opened. <br /><br />-W
 

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Just checking, used to work on old jeeps. this motor is totally different. will use degree wheel.<br />thanks,<br />horn
 

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What's different is that there's 2 separate point ignitions synched up in the one distributor.<br /><br />Being a 2stroke engine it fires once every revolution. A single point system can't open and close fast enough to fire 6 times in a revolution. The solution was the "Kiekhaefer Distributor" that can fire a plug every 60 degrees and still have a 90 degree dwell to charge the coils. It works very well, even at high rpm's.<br /><br />-W
 
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