Bias Circuit jumper cable disconnect

mercsmp

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I had someone look at my 1982 115 Mercury 6 cylinder outboard because it would idle fine but would go dead as soon as you gave it any throttle. It acted like it was not getting fuel. He told me that it was a faulty switch box because when he disconnected the white/black jumper wire between the two switch boxes, it would run fine. I asked him which switch box had the problem and he said he didn't know. He said that I could buy a new switch box and swap it with each old box to determine which one is bad. I read that one check you could make for the bias circuit was to disconnect the white/black jumper between the switch boxes and then check the ohms from each white/black terminal to engine ground. The range should be 14,000 - 15,000 ohms. Each one of mine was at 14,800 ohms. Does it sound like something is wrong with the bias circuit in one or both switch boxes? Will it cause more problems if I run the motor with the white/black jumper disconnected? Should I replace one or both of the switch boxes?
 

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Re: Bias Circuit jumper cable disconnect

Reconnect the bias wire and do a spark check. The one that seems good is usually the bad one.

If the engine has much value, it would be worth while if you replace only one switchbox to index the the flywheel and check the timing on all 6 cylinders. When the bias circuits have faulty parts, timing sometimes varies significantly.
 

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Do you lose spark on ALL cyl's with the throttle advanced?

It may be possible that you are only losing spark on one or two pairs of cyl's from broken trigger wires where they flex.

Disconnect the throttle cable and test the triggers while moving the throttle from idle to WOT and back. Any broken wires should show a drop in output at some point during movement.
 

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Re: Bias Circuit jumper cable disconnect

How do you check for spark on throttle advance? I have an inline ignition spark checker. Do I connect the spark checker to a plug and put the boat in the water and have someone look at the spark checker as I advance the throttle? Also, do I check the cylinders one at a time for spark or is there some other way to tell if I am losing spark on ALL cylinders with throttle advance?
 

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Idle stabilizer and bias circuit questions with pictures

Idle stabilizer and bias circuit questions with pictures

I have a 1982 Mercury 115 6 cylinder motor.

1. Is the black box in this picture the idle stabilizer?
2. What is the cut wire below the box supposed to be connected to? It appears to be coming from the wiring harness. I have a wiring diagram but I don't see a wire that color in the diagram.
Idle Stabilizer.JPG

3. Will the idle stabilizer work if the bias circuit wire(white/black) is disconnected from the top switch box?
4. The bias circuit wire was disconnected to solve a problem of the motor stopping as soon as I gave it throttle. Will it cause problems if I keep the bias circuit wire disconnected and run the motor?
5. Can you give me a basic description of what the bias circuit does and what is the significance of connecting the two switch boxes with the white/black wire.?

The white/black wire, red wire with connector, and the black wire at the bottom of this picture are coming from the idle stabilizer.

switchbox.jpg
 

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Is the black box in this picture the idle stabilizer?
Yep....
What is the cut wire below the box supposed to be connected to?
Looks like the wht/blk from stabilizer....
Will the idle stabilizer work if the bias circuit wire(white/black) is disconnected from the top switch box?
It will on the box its attached to.....
Will it cause problems if I keep the bias circuit wire disconnected and run the motor?
Yep as the boxes cannot stay "timed " together, running with out them tied together is a very high risk of melting a piston.
Can you give me a basic description of what the bias circuit does and what is the significance of connecting the two switch boxes with the white/black wire.
Simple answer is that it keeps boxes timed together so all cylinders have the same timing....
 

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The cut wire in the first picture (Tan) may be a temp sensor lead, with the key ON, ground this wire to see if your over heat alarm sounds.

Second picture shows the Bias wire (White w/black) and Red running down into a small harness, these are the Idle stabilizer wires and should be disconnected. The short Bias wire connecting the two switchboxes should be reconnected, then test each cyl for spark, if you have no spark on three cyls, again disconnect the Bias wire between the boxes and retest for spark. If you now have spark on all cyls, the box that was always sparking has a bad bias circuit, blacking spark on the other box. Replace the bad switchbox, but leave the idle stabilizer disconnected.
 

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The cut wire goes to the number 3 hole in the wiring harness and according to this wiring diagram that wire is not used on my motor.

View attachment 122192

I started the motor in the yard with the bias circuit jumper wire disconnected and checked for spark at each plug with an inline ignition spark tester. There was fire at each plug. Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqqq4vcxZ9s

I started the motor in the yard with the idle stabilizer disconnected and bias circuit jumper cable connected and checked for spark at each plug with an inline ignition spark tester. There was fire at each plug. Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej_D-KK-UKs

I started the motor in the yard with the idle stabilizer connected and bias circuit jumper cable connected and checked for spark at each plug with an inline ignition spark tester. There was fire at each plug. Here is the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylm_4sJEJ7o

I also did another test which I am not sure means anything. I disconnected the top three plug wires and started the motor and it idled fine. I disconnected the bottom three plug wires with the top three connected and it would try to start but would immediately die.

Next with the idle stabilizer and bias circuit jumper cable connected, I took the boat to the lake and started the motor on the trailer in the water. It started and idled fine. I gave it some throttle and it appeared to run fine. I then took the boat off the trailer and took it for a test ride. To my surprise it idled fine and ran fine through the full range of throttle. Here is the video of the test ride on the lake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZpKM-pcRMw

Originally, it would idle fine but die almost immediately after I gave it throttle. The person I took it to told me that it would work with the bias circuit jumper cable disconnected and that something was wrong with one of the switch boxes. Everything seems to be working fine now and I have not added any new parts. I have only done the testing that I wrote above. Any ideas on what may have happened or why it is working now?
 

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Re: Idle stabilizer and bias circuit questions with pictures

Chuck the stabilizer, reconnect the bias' jumper. It will work disconnected for testing but running WOT on the water disconnected would result in a blown motor eventually.
 

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Re: Idle stabilizer and bias circuit questions with pictures

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In my last video above, I had everything connected as it should be. The bias jumper was connected as was the idle stabilizer. The motor worked fine as far as I could tell. In other words, everything is working as if there was never a problem.
 

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It work THIS time, BUT.............when that idle stabilizer goes berzerk at WOT RPM it will send the rods out thru the sides of the motor, you can't rebuild that!

John, Fazt and I are all telling you to get rid of the idle stabilizer NOW, before it destroys your motor.

Ya wonder why Merc discontinued the part? They don't want the blame, or lawsuits, when it destroys any more motors.
 

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OK. I'll immediately disconnect the idle stabilizer. Thanks for the information.
 
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