big river tips

brad1756

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I'm a new boat owner(1756 w/50hp) I bought the boat primarily to duck hunt out of. Since purchase, we've been doing a lot more fishing and swimming, etc. also. I'm wanting to get out on the Miss. river to do some fishing and just goofin off(the adventure thing) I've only been out on the river a couple of times in the past and it's a little(lot)intimidating. Any tips other than the killer barges? Is there some favorite sites that anyone knows of, of small boat handling on this kind of water? Thanks in advance?
 

Oldsaltydog

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Re: big river tips

The current is strongest in the middle. Going upstream take the sides for less resistance. Going downriver, take the middle for more speed. At a bend, the current is faster and deeper on the outside and vice versa. When docking, approach the dock going upstream. Watch the current, so it will not slam you into anything. When turning or going diagonally, keep in mind that where you point the bow and where you will arrive will be two different things. Barges may suck a narrow channel almost dry, so be ready for shallow water or even the bottom of the river on some occasions. Judge your speed by looking at the shore and not by looking at the water flow. Have fun!
 

Dman

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Re: big river tips

Get to know your bouys and markers. What out for wing dams which divert current to the middle of the river and can be very shallow. <br />Dman
 

POINTER94

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Re: big river tips

Get charts for the area and like Dman said, watch out for wing dams. If you stay in the channel you won't have any worries and if you leave the channel watch the current as it will mark the wing dams with vortecies. Go slow and you shouldn't have any issues. Thinking about spending the weekend on the Mississippi myself.<br /><br />Oh yea, make sure you have a good anchor combo before you take off!!!
 

brad1756

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Re: big river tips

Thanks, that's the kind of things I was wanting to know. I feel like this boat would be big enough for this sort of thing? It seems pretty stable on the small lakes with mod. boat traffic/waves
 

Skinnywater

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Re: big river tips

Be aware and avoid drifting into any snags (fallen trees). Even in an emergency a snag isn't a good place to head for, in a boat or man overboard.<br />As Pointer already mentioned a good anchor is survival equipment.<br /><br />A local story around here, and it sounds believable.<br />A fair sized boat was anchored at night Sturgeon fishing in the Sacramento River delta region. <br />A large tree was drifting in the current and ran into the anchor rope. Immediately pulling the boat under.<br /><br />I'm anchored pretty regular and I always look up stream for debris comming at me.
 

rochester

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Re: big river tips

What part of the river you want to venture on?<br /><br />I grew up on the Upper-Mississippi river, LaCrosse/Onalaska, WI, and I think the river is the greatest adventure imaginable. As a teenager, we ran all over the river with a 16-foot Jon boat with an 18-horse motor, duck-hunting, fishing and just messin' around. Your boat will be great. As far as current goes, I wouldn't worry about it for boating, I'd stick to the right side of the channel whenever possible, WITHIN the channel buoys. Current is more of a concern when you park the boat on a sand-bar and start to go swimming or beachcombing. First off, the buoys usually mark wingdams (piles of rocks) that were placed in the river to keep the channel deep before the Locks & Dams went in,but things can move on the river. If you see from funny looking current, the safest bet is to avoid it. If you want to go to shore to a sand-bar, etc. just go in perpendicular to the channel, slowly, and do not go between buoys and shore. You might see some boaters doing this, and not hitting anything, but if the water-level is down, you will wreck a prop or worse, lose your lower-unit or even punch a hole in your hull. I've seen all of this happen, so don't do it. If you're going ashore to play in the water, avoid the down-river side of sand-bars for swimming or wading. The drop-offs (and the fish) are there. Many times there are strong undertows in this area too. The safest bet is to wear a life-jacket when wading and swimming. Most people who drown on the river get sucked in by an undertow, and try to fight it. If you don't panic, chances are that it will "spit" you up down-river. When wading, the safest bet is to walk up-river. And remember, when you are swimming the current is going to move you down-river, so you can get "swept-away" if you are not paying attention. My kids are all grown up now, but I had them out on the river when they were babies, with no problems. Just don't leave them out of your sight, or out of your grasp for a moment, and they will have the time of their lives. For the most part, the only thing you have to worry about with barges is getting in front of one, dead-in-the-water, and the wake.<br /><br />As somebody said, you have got to get to know the buoys. The easy way to keep it straight is "Red-Right-Returning." If you're going up-river, i.e., returning, red buoys should be on the right, green on the left. Vice-versa for going down-river, obviously. You can download charts for free from the Corps of Engineers website: http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/NavCharts/UMRNavCharts.asp <br /><br />these charts cover everything from St. Paul, MN to Cairo, IL.<br /><br />Going through the locks is easy and free, even if you are the only boat. You will definitely want to take your family through the locks, but just beware that if barges are going through, you might wait a long time to back back through. Here are directions for locking through:<br /><br /> http://www.mvr.usace.army.mil/PA_brochure3651/PA3651_01.htm <br /><br />There are lots of backwaters to the Mississippi that are fun to explore too, but you can get lost, and or run into multiple obstacles if you are not familiar with where you are going. If you're going to duck hunt or fish these areas, I would highly recommend charts, a GPS, depth-finder, a compass, and a cell phone. If it's in your budget, a VHF radio would be nice.<br /><br />If you have anymore questions, let me know.
 

rochester

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Re: big river tips

I re-read what I wrote, and one thing is inaccurate because I forgot to make a change when I was editing it. The channel marker buoys do not mark wing dams. They only mark the channel. There are many unmarked wing dams. If you do not run up or down the river between shore and the channel markers, it is unlikely you will run into any problems with wing dams. You will see boats anchored just above or near wing dams because fish, walleyes and sauger in particular, tend to school below the wing dams.<br /><br />One other thing, perhaps I minimized the danger of tows, because I don't think you have to be paranoid about them, however... I wouldn't water ski, or pull any toys, etc. in front of them, or anchor in front of them, etc. They will not be able to stop or maneuver to avoid you, so you always want to give them the right-of-way.
 
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