Bimini Top Question

spdracr39

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I am going to add a bimini top to our boat. How tall do you guys like them to be? I think I want to be able to walk under it standing up but what are your opinions?
 

Bob_VT

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Re: Bimini Top Question

It's user choice ;) I think it is best to be able to stand up.
 

Expidia

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These questions on height always come up around the beginning of the new season. There are many threads on this if you do a search.

My take on the height is you factor in your height and measure up from the top of the gunnel where the bimini frame is going to sit and add an inch or two above your head.

Most Bimini's have a "bow" in the middle anyway, which raises the center another few more inches anyway, which allows for good head room.

If you go too high your rig is going to look funny or gawky. When I see a rig cruising by that's way high, it looks like a Giraffe to me. Too high also allows too much of the afternoon lower in the sky sun to come in which negates the reason for the bimini (other than providing shelter from the rain). On hot days, hanging out in a bay, it's nice to be able to put the top up to shield you from the sun.

Go with at least the 3 bow versions.

Once you measure the width of your rig, most universal or semi custom Bimini's that are sold only come in like 3 height choices, so choose the size that's just "above" your head. You can always cut the frame down if you wanted to go for a lower look so it's better to go a little higher than shorter because if it works out to low for your tastes you can't lengthen the frame.

Mine's 60 inches long and I mounted it on an optional sliding track, so I can slide the top back or forward 2 feet in either direction, which covers any area of the boat I need to shade!

Here is a pic of (for my tastes anyway) of a Bimini that's looks to be at least a foot or two too high when he's standing! And would not provide much shade:
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This one's height is sleeker looking to me for my tastes:
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spudshaft

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Re: Bimini Top Question

Mine is just above my head and I am 6' even. Looks fine to me, and it is nice not to have to bend over when walking around.
 

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Re: Bimini Top Question

The lower it is, the more shade it will offer. I just installed one a couple weeks ago and sized mine so that I am JUST able to walk under it.
 

V153

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Re: Bimini Top Question

Something y'all might consider as an alternative to buying cheap pre-made chinese bimini tops'n tryin to make em fit? Would be to look up your friendly local canvas/cushion guy.

Every frame I bend & top I sew is designed to meet that particular customer's specs. Material I use is warranteed for 10 years, the thread for the life of the material. Big tall guy we add a couple inches, dwarfs we subtract a few. Wide boat or narrow. Say you want it longer or shorter? We do that too. I defy you to find a better made top/cover/cushion in the vicinity.

Reckon what bothers me most is when these ibought products fail. Instead of sending them back to china? Guess who the owners bring em to for resurrection. Ya, lucky me. And considering they didn't pay much for the top to begin with they expect me to fix it for free.

Quoted a guy a measly $100 bucks to restitch a big wide 4 bow bimini. I thought he was gonna have a stroke, looked at me like I'd just run over his new puppy ...
 

Sixmark

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Re: Bimini Top Question

some of us are lucky enough not to need a bimini because we have a full all weather top, these are great here in Minnesota as they allow for fishing in the cold, rain, etc. just zip out the side and rear window and you have a bimini.

Height may be an issue for other reasons than just looks, I have seen many a top taken down by a bridge over a channel, but that it purely operator error.
 

Expidia

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Something y'all might consider as an alternative to buying cheap pre-made chinese bimini tops'n tryin to make em fit? Would be to look up your friendly local canvas/cushion guy.

Every frame I bend & top I sew is designed to meet that particular customer's specs. Material I use is warranted for 10 years, the thread for the life of the material. Big tall guy we add a couple inches, dwarfs we subtract a few. Wide boat or narrow. Say you want it longer or shorter? We do that too. I defy you to find a better made top/cover/cushion in the vicinity.

Reckon what bothers me most is when these ibought products fail. Instead of sending them back to china? Guess who the owners bring em to for resurrection. Ya, lucky me. And considering they didn't pay much for the top to begin with they expect me to fix it for free.

Quoted a guy a measly $100 bucks to restitch a big wide 4 bow bimini. I thought he was gonna have a stroke, looked at me like I'd just run over his new puppy ...

My experience . . . Ya, I agree with this posters comments. First one I bought was a universal online (Westmoreland) and it's a sloppy fit. I touched up against a piling and one of the bows snapped in two just like if it was made of plastic. It's real cheap light weight aluminum. Material was OK because it was Sunbrella. Now next boat I'll go with all stainless frame and fittings.

Next I ordered a full trailerable Lund OEM cover from a dealer (like over $500). It was advertised as Sunbrella, but when I got it and looked at the label it was some other material. I wouldn't fit over the frame cause I mounted the Bimini frame on top of the Gunnel's. Had to sell that OEM cover on Craigslist.

Then I went to a canvas shop and he sewed in zippers all around my Bimini and made up a full enclosure with sweet huge windows matching Sunbrella fabric to the Bimini.

It cost $700, but it was worth every penny. Extends my season in the Northeast by 4 months. The next year, I had him make me up a custom full trailerable cover. It came with 3 poles and two vents. Cost was around $600. He suggested using Top Gun fabric instead of Sunbrella (same price for either fabric) for a trailer cover because Sunbrella tends to stretch and Top Gun does not. Top Gun has a nice rubberized feel to it over the porous Sunbrella.

So from my experience, I would never by an online universal product again. I'll only be using a local canvas shop myself. Might be a few bucks more, but it will outlast the cheap China stuff. He said I should get 10 years out of the enclosure, if properly taken care of.

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V153

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Re: Bimini Top Question

Thanks Expidia! You made my day. There is hope after all.

Y'know I can appreciate folks tryin' to save a buck cuz of the crappy economy. (If you think times are tough try running a small business.) But c'mon people this is your boat?!

I just restitched a Sunbrella top that was 13yrs old for cripes sake. Material was still in decent condition?! You get what you pay for I reckon, if ya do the math it's a purty good investment.

Killer enclosure btw. Get on it with the 303. Do you have an aft curtain as well?
 

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Something y'all might consider as an alternative to buying cheap pre-made chinese bimini tops'n tryin to make em fit? Would be to look up your friendly local canvas/cushion guy.

I agree. My first boat, a small seadoo, had two sizes available, and the previous owner LUCKILY put on the lower of the two. Yes, you had to crawl in from the back, but it looked nice and provided great shade.

On my current boat, I had it custom made. Took a couple weeks, because he made suggestions, drew stuff up, asked for input, and re-drew it until i was happy with it, and THEN made it.

Both shown below.

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The top on the Glastron can be used just the front half (which is MOST of the time, or full open, like in the picture).
 

V153

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Yes now see this top is almost the right height. But lack of a sufficient center pocket is allowing things to bounce around willy nilly. Notice there's no flap or facing ...
 

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V153

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I agree. My first boat, a small seadoo, had two sizes available, and the previous owner LUCKILY put on the lower of the two. Yes, you had to crawl in from the back, but it looked nice and provided great shade.

On my current boat, I had it custom made. Took a couple weeks, because he made suggestions, drew stuff up, asked for input, and re-drew it until i was happy with it, and THEN made it.

Both shown below.

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The top on the Glastron can be used just the front half (which is MOST of the time, or full open, like in the picture).
That's purty slick Scooper. I like it! Gives me new ideas. Thanks for the pic!
 

Expidia

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The zipper is there for a storm curtain, but he wanted in the range of $400 for it because I wanted a window sewn in. Sunbrella cost more now than it did 4 years ago. I didn't see the need for it because you can't zipper it closed with the outboard running due to carbon monoxide. So I figure if the weathers going to be that bad the rig is already going to be back on the trailer with us waiting it out in the car. Don't like the idea of being on the water with lightening in an aluminum boat. I'm always amazed to be running away from a lightning storm and pass boats pulling water skiers heading right into the storm :eek:

I try and keep a real close eye on the radar on my smart phone and I can out run most scattered storms. No rain comes in the back when we are moving forward anyway. But if the enclosure is up and I'm going too fast, I sometimes feel a light mist my back because the enclosure can create a wind tunnel effect and it sucks up a light spray off the mist that the prop throws off.

For us the enclosure serves more to block the wind, because I don't have a passenger side windshield. The Canvas guy came up with a great way to attach the front wind screen, since I have no left side console to attach it to.

I might go back to him, so he can make me up a dodger for the open bow area. I saw another rig with this sweet 3 foot high enclosed dodger with a small window in the front of it. Or I might just have him make up just a bow cover to keep it dryer from getting caught in any rough seas.

Ya, 303 Fabric Guard is great stuff. But to me, the most amazing stuff is their 303 Fabric/Vinyl cleaner. A quick spray and a light brushing with an over sized toothbrush removes any grease that gets on my light grey trailerable cover from the road tar or when some grease from the out board's control cables gets on the bimini.

That cleaner has no solvent, yet the grease or dirt just magically disappears without leaving a ring or changing the burgundy color. Amazing stuff. A little spray goes a long way. I'm on the same 16 oz bottle for the last 2 years :D

I also use Plexus vinyl protectant on all the windows. It keeps them from yellowing, protects from scratches and keeps them crystal clear. Meguire's Mirror Glaze clear plastic detailer is good stuff too.

I store the enclosure and windows in a zippered bag that the canvas shop made up for me out of the matching Sunbrella fabric. I roll the enclosure up and also roll the windows sandwiched between thin blankets to prevent scratching. Everything stores in the bag and is held on with two bungies on the rear platform. I can set all up with in 5 minutes if a storm is approaching. We boat almost every weekend and have only gotten drenched once in the last 4 years from a freak storm that did not appear on the weather radar, but came over a mountain range.

I figure for the money I spent at the canvas shop, I'll get at least 1/2 of it back if I needed to sell the rig. Everything still looks brand new, even though it's 4 seasons old already.

And price wise it was actually a bargain to me, after I saw how much labor and stitching goes into making up a custom enclosure
Don't mean to be too wordy and off topic from the original posters question, but I've seen what some of the local shops can do with canvas . . . it is really a form of art. And I figure "you" would appreciate how I take care of my stuff, because I know how some boaters neglect your creations after it leaves your shop!

If it ever stops raining here, I'll detail again the enclosure and the trailerable cover for this upcoming season.
 

scooper77515

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The back half unzips and can be removed in seconds, frame and all. My original intent was to leave that home most of the time, and just use the part from the wake tower tow hitch forward, but we end up with the back half on all the time, but usually rolled up so that the tow ball is the rear part of the covered area. Allows free movement of tow rope, and keeps drivers plenty shaded.

But we have found that when we hang out on the water or at the beach, the back half ends up extended after the wife starts to get a little too much sun.

so, yes, we paid a little extra, but got good fabric (Sunbrella), good design, and we use the crap out of it!

Fully adjustable as well, so no flapping or parachuting while we are on the move.
 

V153

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Here's a lil top I cobbled up for my boat. Spent a lot of time in R&D and the wind tunnel on that one ... Still slows me down almost 2mph!?
 

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My buddy Spike's got a hopped up hot rod Checkmate. Gazillions of $ in the motor. Evidently he thought my quote for a bimini was too high. Bought this nice fitting/color matching top online instead ...
 

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spdracr39

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Thanks to all above !! I got a 4 bow top with Sunbrella fabric and zipper pockets and mounted it myself in just over an hour. Works great !!! It was 100 degrees today and the sun would have been intolerable so without the top we could not have gone to the lake. In my opinion it has already paid for itself !!!
 
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