Boat History with HIN

LawHungLow

Cadet
Joined
May 29, 2011
Messages
28
I just bought a boat with trailer for $450. The guy bought it at auction and didnt have a title or anything for it. The HIN is there and I just want to know what website is reputable that i can check the history of it and past owners to try to get a title. A google search came up with several websites to use, but i just want to know which one is best.
Or if someone has an account somewhere that could look at histories, that would be helpful.
 

roscoe

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Oct 30, 2002
Messages
21,753
Re: Boat History with HIN

Good luck with any history report, they are useless, there is no database of info to pull the info from.

If you need to title it, check with the licensing agents in your state.

If they won't do it without a title, then register it in a state that does not require a title, then transfer it to your state and start the paperwork all over.
 

sschefer

Rear Admiral
Joined
Nov 13, 2008
Messages
4,530
Re: Boat History with HIN

It really does look like a parts boat to me. I would strip the parts, get rid of the hull, and then put the parts and trailer up for sale. If the trailer doesn't have a titlte you may not be able to sell if for the cost of of obtaining a correct title. (Depends on where you are located.)


I agree.
 

wifisher

Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Mar 9, 2011
Messages
578
Re: Boat History with HIN

Buying a boat with no title is the same as buying a car with no title. Sometimes the owner lost the title and is too lazy to replace it. Sometimes it is stolen and the seller can't get a title. If you buy it and claim ownership on a stolen boat/car, you CAN go to jail for it. If you are buying ANY used vehicle, I would suggest getting a title with it. If the owner says that he can not produce a title, maybe look elsewhere.

Legal owners CAN get a title.
 

LawHungLow

Cadet
Joined
May 29, 2011
Messages
28
Re: Boat History with HIN

i know this is old and sorry for digging it up, but felt like i had to complete the story so others can learn how to do it and that is is possible.


After lots of legwork between the storage complany to obtain copies of newspaper ads showing the auction was advertised and with all the records of the storage company of how much was owed on the storage space for the boat, ORIGINAL letters (the dmv wouldn't accept a copy) to the owner notifying him that his storage unit was to be auctioned to collect a debt that were returned to sender, and going around with the DMV with exactly what is needed, i did obtain a title for it. Fortunately for me, it was a reputable storage company that was up on the law and had all this paperwork in order. Funny thing is that, the boat was in somebody else's name other than the actual storage unit. I found it kind of odd that it didn't matter what was in the storage space or whose it was, when the space is auctioned off, whatever was in it, is now owned by the winner of the auction and the dmv can just change the ownership without notifying the actual owner of it. Kind of felt sorry for the guy who had his boat in his brother's storage unit.
I put a good engine in it, tested everything to be working properly, cleaned it up and sold the boat for $2700 in spring 2012.

Lesson learned - You can get a title to a vehicle that was sold at a storage auction with persistence and the proper paperwork. Hopefully, others can find this information useful.
 

GA_Boater

Honorary Moderator Emeritus
Joined
May 24, 2011
Messages
49,038
Re: Boat History with HIN

What state are you in? Helps to know cuz there are 50 ways.
 

ken51k

Petty Officer 3rd Class
Joined
Mar 5, 2012
Messages
77
Re: Boat History with HIN

"Buying a boat with no title is the same as buying a car with no title." This is not a true statement. These are states that do not have titles for boats. I live in MA but keep my boat in CT and I do not have a title for it. Arizona, Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado,Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Maine, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Tennessee, Wyoming are non title states
 
Joined
Oct 22, 2007
Messages
2,598
Re: Boat History with HIN

"Buying a boat with no title is the same as buying a car with no title." This is not a true statement. These are states that do not have titles for boats.......


Yes, BUT..... at least in Georgia (I can't speak for any of the other non-title states because unfortunately they're all different) the registration card essentially takes the place of a title. When you sell a boat you hand over the registration card to the new owner. And I've never had to do it but have heard horror stories about people who try to register a boat that didn't have a clean registration in the name of the person they bought the boat from.
 

Home Cookin'

Fleet Admiral
Joined
May 26, 2009
Messages
9,715
Re: Boat History with HIN

When I read the earlier posts, what occurred to me that seperates this post from the hundreds of "no title" posts was that he got it from an auction. Auctions are often but not always a legal sale process that is the exception to the chain of title requirements. As we learned here, the auction has to be done correctly and it is often technical, expensive, time consuming and confusing (I've done boat auctions for a marina). Miss one step or misplace one scrap of paper and it's a wasted effort. The take away point is to use that auction process, and don't take the boat unless it was done right.

The auction process, done correctly, is also the way to transfer a boat without a title; it's often available for boats abandoned on your property. No, you can't buy one, drag it to your yard, and claim it was abandoned. But if someone is selling a boat without a title that was left on his property, even by his relative or someone who died, you as the buyer can walk him through the process and get the boat with a new title.

EVERY STATE HAS ITS OWN PROCESS. There is NEVER a reason to learn the details from another state. You can NEVER assume that your state will let you end up with a title. You have to FOCUS on your own state's process and none other.

Oh, and here's the wildcard: as you deal with various officials in the process, from the clerk at the registration counter to the sheriff, you will get different answers about what is required, often regardless of what the law/regs clearly state, and you have no choice but to do it their way, even if wrong. They'll tell you on the phone what you need and then the person at the desk will say you don't have what you need. They run on unwritten rules. So be ready for anything!
 

tazrig

Lieutenant Commander
Joined
Dec 20, 2012
Messages
1,752
Re: Boat History with HIN

...Oh, and here's the wildcard: as you deal with various officials in the process, from the clerk at the registration counter to the sheriff, you will get different answers about what is required, often regardless of what the law/regs clearly state, and you have no choice but to do it their way, even if wrong. They'll tell you on the phone what you need and then the person at the desk will say you don't have what you need. They run on unwritten rules. So be ready for anything!

Sounds like you've been to MA!
 

Home Cookin'

Fleet Admiral
Joined
May 26, 2009
Messages
9,715
Re: Boat History with HIN

I deal with the same problem constantly with the court system
 

H20Rat

Vice Admiral
Joined
Mar 8, 2009
Messages
5,204
Re: Boat History with HIN

When I read the earlier posts, what occurred to me that seperates this post from the hundreds of "no title" posts was that he got it from an auction. Auctions are often but not always a legal sale process that is the exception to the chain of title requirements.

Agreed! With the exception that only applies to an auction which was done with the legal backing for the storage owner to be able to have the auction. The vast majority of auctions are estate/private party auctions, which is no different than a typical private sale.

Had the OP mentioned it was a storage unit auction, the posts could have been far more helpful.

Have to hand it to the OP though, I'm actually surprised you didn't do the end-run around the boat title issue! I've done a similar type dance with government agencies, it isn't fun... There are even companies that specialize in doing all the paperwork, you hand them a check, and a couple weeks later they hand you a clean title. Completely legal, it just involves registering the boat in a no-boat-title state, and then transferring it back.
 
Last edited:
Top