Boat Modifications (long)

SuzukiChopper

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Hey,<br /><br />I just bought a boat a couple months ago from a buddy of mine. It's a 16 foot Delray made by International Fiberglass. I like it quite a bit the way it is but I have a few things I'd like to do, a couple of them I need some opinions on.<br /><br />First off I need to replace the floor and the foam under it (my buddies dad just about sunk the boat the week before I purchased it). I know quite a bit of the floor is soaked (mounted some pedestal seats and they aren't that sturdy). This is fine, would like to run some PVC for wiring and such anyways below the floor. <br /><br />Second is carpet and storage bins along the side of the boat.<br /><br />Third is bench style seating in the rear, raised in the center for the battery and fuse block/etc to mount. Under each seat will be storage.<br /><br />Now here's where I need opinions/advice/help/therapy whatever :) <br /><br />I'm thinking of cutting open the bow to convert the boat to an open bow. I'm thinking of creating a raised floor so there's storage underneath. In doing this I'm going to need to cut the dash down the center and create siding along the new aisle, as well as cut the windsheild and use the old piece to create a swing open section. This I assume is an okay thing to do and if I take my time can turn out nice. I also was wanting to add 50 - 100lbs or so of bricks (secured of course) along the empty space on either side of this new area. My reasoning is the extra weight will help the boat cut through the waves better and create a mode stable ride. Also in the back section under the splash deck (i think it's called) I'm going to mount a gas tank from a Saturn or something similar with a filler spout to the side of the boat. Of course there will be mods that will have to be done to the tank to allow mounting the old fuel link hookup to it, etc, no big deal. Is there a better idea for a tank?<br /><br />Finally, my last big venture is I need a power tilt trim for my 100 hp johnson (1972). I'm getting really tired of lifting the stupid thing everytime I want to go into a channel where it's only 2-3 feet deep. Also at the dock when the waves are crashing into the back of the boat it's damn near impossible to do! Any idea where I can find the OEM parts to replace the manual cylinders with the hydraulic ones? (I'm looking for a cheap alternative to the $2500 brand new model). OR does anyone know of any water-proof 12v linear actuators that would do the job? OR can you convert the standard manual rams to be hydraulic? (drilling and tapping holes for fittings, etc?). <br /><br />And last but certainly not least *laugh* can a guy get rid of the *splash deck* once he has power tilt/trim and build the area up a little higher to create a platform for waterskiers/swimmers to *lounge*? <br /><br />Sorry for the long post, hope someone can help me out with some of this stuff or atleast point me to a good phsyciatric ward somewhere ;) Take care!
 

JasonJ

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Re: Boat Modifications (long)

If you are asking if it is possible or feasible to hack a boat up and convert it to what you want, just click my link below, have a bit of a read, and get crackin'. Good luck...
 

Bondo

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Go to the Top of This Page,+ Click on the Red Seach Button........<br />Type in JasonJ....<br /><br />Jason not only did about what you're looking to do.......<br />He took Pictures.........<br /><br />Good Luck.....
 

Bondo

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Hi Jason,<br />You got in over me.... :D
 

SuzukiChopper

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I did all the searching, been reading the posts for days. My concern isn't with hacking the boat up, and yes I looked at Jason's pictures and read the whole thing, great job. My concern is with things like adding the weight to the bow, is this going to make a difference or really mess things up? Also, I'm really hard up to find some information about power tilt and trim. Can a guy make his own? Where do you find parts? What parts are suitable? Also right now all I have are two separate gas tanks, portable ones. I would like some advice on where the best location is for the gas tank, are there gas tanks available and where can I find one? My only resource is the internet for this stuff as we have 3 boat stores in the city and all they carry are new boats and ski equipment, never want to help out a guy like me, actually just about got kicked out of the one store for asking these types of questions. And yes, I'm still reading posts, and yes I'm going to go back and look at Jason's site again, I really enjoyed reading it :)
 

Realgun

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1. DO NOT ADD BRICKS<br />This just makes the boat ride lower in the water does not float, and if there is not enough foam will sink it. If needed move the battery forward. It will not let the boat ride any better than it does. you may have some structural failure in the floor, stringers or trandsom to fix to get as good a ride as the hull was designed for. <br />2. DO NOT USE AN AUTOMOTIVE TANK<br />Get a fuel tank designed for your boat. There are quite a few available here on iBoats and elsewhere if you cannot find it here.<br />3. POWER TILT/TRIM<br />Here on Iboats is a unit designed for that. hint-do a search there was a great post and followup on that 1.
 

JasonJ

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I had added quite a bit of weight to my bow. The casting deck, bow mount electric trolling motor, deep cycle battery, and casting chair all adds up. I'd say I probably added about 120-130 pounds, and I never really noticed any ill effect at all. No change in speed or handling, but that is my experience. Yours may be diferent. Check Overtons.com, they have the largest selection of fuel tanks I have seen at decent prices, and they are intended for the purpose. <br /><br />I hear what you are saying, my local marine shops are the same way. Unless you are there to drop 10 large on a new outboard, they want nothing to do with you. Don't even ask them a question, they will simply walk away. They do it and get away with it, for now, but the internet is taking its toll on them. I avoid them if at all possible because of their poor attitude, and I ensure other avoid them as well. CMC makes an aftermarket t&t, $500 gets you tiltin'.
 

Solittle

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Re: Boat Modifications (long)

I strongly suggest that you reread the suggestions from Realgun several times. Good advice.<br /><br />On the conversion to a bow rider - This can be successfully done in some boats but not others. The element to watch out for is the strength and rigidity of the hull. You will be removing the crosswise structural support for the hull by cutting the dash, windshield and I assume the front. Make sure that your boat is strong enough to do this.
 

SuzukiChopper

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Thanks Jason for the link to the gas tank place. I've been hunting and hunting and hunting, couldn't find anything though. I think I'll stay away with adding any weight to the front... I think the false floor and such should add enough weight to accomplish what I want, thanks for opening my eyes to this.<br /><br />Also to address the strength issue... with the floor all replaced and the floor re-done and fiberglassed in, sides created for the cutout of the dash and fiberglassed along with the curved sides I have to create at the front to close the sides in, I think that should be more than strong enough, if not stronger than what's already there. My biggest complaint about the boat right now is if I hit a wave at speed, the front end lifts up quite a bit and slams down to the water, and when this happens the whole boat kind of shakes and feels REALLY unstable. I'm hoping the foam under the floor will also help this quite a bit as I'm thinking it's either not there OR is completely ruined from when my buddies dad just about sank the boat (he left it at the dock during a storm and it crashed into some rocks). I guess I'll have to get pictures of this thing put up somewhere, really would like to create a site like Jason with my experience, I read about half of it again last night, going to finish the other half and maybe read it again (I'm taking notes :) )
 

SuzukiChopper

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Sorry, once last thing... about the power tilt and trim, been looking long and hard at the CMC units, just don't know if I want to shell out $500us (about $850+ cdn) for it quite yet, have to worry about the rest of the resto first.
 

JasonJ

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Thats the way I have been about the CMC unit. I have heard good things about it, but I am still hoping to come across a blown donor motor with the t&t assembly I need. I just know if I buy a CMC unit, I'll go to a customers house a week later and he'll ask me "Ya know anyone who can haul that thing off" and point to an inline six Merc laying in the back of the shed with power t&t. You'd be suprised how often I get asked this, except it is usually cars or other junk I don't need.
 

SuzukiChopper

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Well Jason, if you ever get asked to haul away a 1972 100hp johnson or come accross the power tilt and trim assembly for one, let me know! I found a guy about an hour away from me that had the unit plus a bunch of extra parts for $500cdn, was ready to jump on it until I saw pictures and realized none of it would work. Oh well, one of these days!
 

daveswaves

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My quick 2 cents, weight is your enemy, structural strength is your friend. Just because its heavier does not mean its stronger. The bricks are DEAD WEIGHT, no value. Re distribute weight if you have to for ride quality. The best place for useful weight is in the stern (batteries fuel motor). Don't make assumptions on how the boat will ride based on a hull with a saturated floor. You will be amazed at how much weight you remove when you pull it out. :) :)
 

SuzukiChopper

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Well removing as much weight as I can will be a bonus. I pull this boat with a 4cyl Saturn SC1 right now (with motor mods for power), and it does great for those 45 minute drives to the lake closest to me, but I don't trust it any further than that. If I can shed off a few hundred pounds I'll be laughing :)
 
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